So right, i might have bit off more than i could chew with my personal choice for my professions in TBC.
see, i play enhancement shaman, and i figured the
drakefist hammer/dragonmaw/dragonstrike is basically BIS no matter what race you play, so obviously i chose to drop engineering and go for blacksmithing.
here’s the kicker though, even with mining and a lot of time invested into said mining profession it was really, really, REALLY time consuming to level blacksmithing even to 350 where i could craft the drakefist hammer and to add insult to injury it requires upwards of 60 primal fires and 60 primal waters just to get the last 15 levels of blacksmithing from 350-375 where upgrading it to Dragonmaw becomes possible, now add on top of that, that to upgrade the hammer itself i needed to compete with a lot of other people in heroics for 8 primal nethers and somehow get my hands on 2 primal mights.
needless to say i wouldn’t wish a tedious, long and hard grind like this on my worst enemy.
i had to spend upwards of 2000 gold and about a full day of grinding motes of fire (and this was WITH dynamic respawns) just to get my blacksmith level to 375 to produce the mace.
comparably, leveling something like alchemy, enchanting and tailoring was a complete joke!
it is MUCH easier to get these professions to their maximum level, and as an extra sprinkle of salt on the wound, i’d have to do this AGAIN once dual wielding the maces becomes possible (at least the grind for nethers and primal mights + the materials to actually enchant them with mongoose) not to mention that the 3rd upgrade (Dragonstrike) requires 5 nether vortex to do, per mace, which means i’d need a total of 10 of them at some point, and these materials aren’t exactly easy to come by.
how have you dealt with leveling your professions? was it easy/hard? did you have gold saved up to skip the long grind or are you still suffering from a major shortage of materials to even level the profession(s) up?
i’m just curious because like i said above, i wouldn’t wish a grind like blacksmithing 300-375 on my worst enemy. its almost sadistically designed.
I am thinking about not getting the epic flying mount and spend all the money on professions, enchants and gems instead… How much will it cost to level enchanting from 1 to 350?^^
I think epic flying is for players with gathering professions and players who have too much gold…
yeah i’ve taken that into account as well, which obviously made the grind that much harder but like damn boyo, i think i’ve developed some kind of shellshock from this.
the utter mention of “throne of kil’jaeden” or “primal fire” makes the world turn gray for me as i do a thousand yard stare into oblivion while i hear faint fire elemental spell fire in the background
I’d say 500g should be enough. Probably less. Things getting mad at 350+
But if you kinda go with premades dungeons you can ask for the blues other dont need. that will probably speed up a lot of progress.
i can’t say how much it would take to level it from 1-375, but 300-375 is relatively cheap and easy if you just farm a lot of dungeons for greens/blues to DE.
its even easier if you go with a group of friends who will allow you all the trash blues and greens for that very purpose.
This is a mentality problem. You have a profession where you can grind the best weapons in the game. This is an amazing and the grind was intended to be done over several months.
Other professions may be neat and cheaper to level but nothing comes close to crafting your own BiS epic melee weapons like that. Of course it must locked behind a really long and expensive grind.
well… certain (and several) armor pieces from tailoring are bis for several classes, including mage, priest, warlock and even druid to an extent.
why is it okay to have their grind be ezpz while melee classes get screwed for wanting their bis piece (singular btw) ?
“Why is it ok”. That was how it was in TBC and this is a recreation of that. You could ofc talk about why it was ok back then.
You are comparing a dress with a freaking awesome bis epic dragon melee hammer.
There is no other higher status item in this game than your main hand weapon. Surely you must see that it makes sense that it’s really expensive and annoying to craft?
i mean… i do… sort of… i just think its a tad too much ye know… just a tad excessive.
i mean we’re talking about farming 1200 motes in total here 600 fire motes and 600 water motes oh and of course the 320 fel iron ores you need to farm on the side as well… for 15 blacksmith levels… with pretty much no alternative in regards to using khorium, adamantite or eternium, outside of a lucky recipe drop in a dungeon that may still require primals of other sorts.
oh and to craft the first tier of the mace alone, you also need 20 primal fires + 20 primal earths (this one is easy i’ll admit) + 12 eternium bars + 8 khorium bars.
i understand that its suppose to be hard to farm all this stuff and that its suppose to be time consuming and expensive, but what i am saying is that it might be just tad too punishing for the reward. after all you can get a 94dps slow 1H axe in kara ezpz and you can even throw that axe for 500-550 dmg or something along those lines which is mildly much less punishing, but since haste is the baste (meta stat) people want the mace over the axe any day of the week.
350-360 is effectively free, 360-365 you can do making Felsteel Gloves (at a loss of 200-300g per craft) and then Ragesteel from 365-375. But yeah Ragesteel is at a loss too since every class that needs them also happens to be a blacksmith, so even tho the shoulders are BIS they are crafted at a loss. I don’t know why you’re talking about motes of water though, there is no need to farm them to level BS.
But yeah, blacksmithing is brutal, just getting from 250-300 ish is a monster effort in itself. The offhand Dragonstrike isn’t gonna be added until Sunwell if it follows the original timeline.
My experience of leveling Alch/Herb was hilariously easy tbh because I did 300-340 alch with Vanilla materials (Greater Arcane Protection Potions) and I did the rest with w/e pot gave skill ups at the time and with Herbalism I was leveling through dungeons so from Slave Pens alone I got to like 350 then did the rest with a bit of open world herbing and w/e herbs I happened to pick during dungeon runs.
All in all both professions probably took about 3 hours of actual active skilling to finish.
There was no insult nor injury. The mats needed for these items are clear and they have been know from 2007. You wanted to get a nice shiny epic as fast as possible and there was a price to be payed. No one forced you to do it. It was your own chose. The reward was getting the weapon.
You could have gathered the materials and leveled the profession at your own pace without rushing or power levelling. Was it worth it only you know that.
And no it’s not sadistic it’s what MMO’s where back then. Believe it or not WOW was considered casual at the time of it’s release.
There is not negativity in my post. You see it that way. You wanted the epic asap just like a lot of other people and you had to pay for power leveling. What part of that is not true or negative?
If you had waited something like a week you could have gotten it for practically free AND made gold in the process. What? You don’t like hearing that so much that you brand my post as negative?
After skilling BS to 360, I was at crossroads to funnel my money in Drakefist/Thunder and buying upgrade mats as well or go for 280% Mount. Bought mount and oh boy that’s the investment worth having, got all money back in 4 days. You just CAN’T farm ores with 60% Fly, period.
