A lot of Death Knights don’t want Breath to be the only go to build. The spec revolves purely around it and is heavily punishing. Especially for PVP, where a 30 second CD stun will instantly destroy your mediocre burst potential. Perhaps delete it or modify it for PVP?
W-E D-O-N-T W-A-N-T B-R-E-A-T-H
There.
The changes you made reduces downtime, yes. Good for PVE. But in PVP you aren’t on the targets all the time, hence why these changes mean nothing for PVP. Because your runes will regenerate when you are getting kited etc. Ice Cap will be somewhat ok I guess, but it’s gonna make Frost DK’s extremely boring after a while. I’d like to see Pillar of Frost unnerfed in PVP, since we don’t deal any damage. Currently Frost tanks better than Blood in PVP.
Last time the spec was fine was Argus patch, atleast bring us back to then, would be a huge improvement. I mean…highest I’ve ever been able to get this season is 1930 as Frost, and then I had to spec Unholy to continue…Just take a look at arena ladders lol.
YOU dont want it, because you probably cant do it.
I had a blast in WoD using it with frost-UH and specially blood, Breath of Sindragosa is ICONIC death night spell and the only thing that makes a frost DK use brain cells outside its a b c rotation.
Even better? Frost 2hander + BoS, melting ppl in 2-3 sec
90% of DK’s would see it reworked or just deleted, just go on the forums. And yes, I can keep up my breaths for a long time, I just hate the playstyle so much. And since I’m a PVP player, breath becomes total trash.
Tell me, are you happy with Frost Death Knights in this state?
Maybe for you + pvp yes because you have 99% chance of chain cc’d while you use BoS, (mighty kickbots back then, when i was pressing BoS i was pressing the opponents stun on me)
Honestly? I cant think of anyone performing with BoS good and keeping it up for along time and not wanting it, pve at least as you in pvp cannot pre-use your defensives to get a max uptime. Maybe a viable fix for pvp would be like last at least XX seconds and then use RP until you run out of RP? Dont know
No im not happy with frost state, its a spec that underperforms in every aspect of the game and blizzard desires to nerf it more i guess ^^
That spell was amazing back in WoD that all specs had it, could pop like 1m+ dps and 1.2m HPS in HFC iskar trash or outdpsing mages for a short burst of time in dungeons(on pull) or simply melt 2 warriors inside tanaan that thought its cool to stand inside that frost fog visual effect
It’s about wether the playstyle is fun or not. Mechanically its a sh*t spell. Hell, you can barely use your rime procs during it. Oh, boss moves? well sucks for you. I mean, popping Breath in PVP is like screaming “YO, CC ME PLEASE HAHAHA” They’re making it even worse in 8.2, since Rime procs will be even harder to use and some of them won’t actually get used.
I mean, Frost DK talents are just all over the place aswell, no talent is a good talent really.
Yes maybe for you because you pvp, explained after why its maybe bad for you like getting chain cc’d when poping it? No offense read it again is un-edited.
So true, crying with this xD But yeah im almost 100% sure back in WoD that i met a guy with a kickbot. The moment i was pressing my BoS it was like pressing his stun button on me. I can understand some people are VERY good but still it takes 1 sec for a human being to process that info and use his stun, that guy was ccing me in a fraction of second lol
Thats why a free 10sec AT LEAST uptime would be nice or even better make it like DH’s metamorphosis entirely free with a fixed duration?
But honestly i dont udnerstand why blizzard HATES frost dk’s that much its been SO LONG they are a bottomline dps, back in WoD frost was ez to play while UH was ALOT harder and trickyer to play but more rewarding in top tier ilvls, now they dumbed down UH to almost DH levels and frost remains trash. Dont know man, i just rerolled after WoD and let blizz do her thing.
Yeah, but it’s not just those who can’t get proper breath’s who hates it, a lot of people who can get good breath’s aswell. Sure, there’s people like you who like it, but like I’ve said 4-5 times now, the majority does not.
It didnt,but that does not change my point of view, sadly i do and you cant do anything about that as i still see it as iconic DK spell
Do you DUH on sindragosas fury as well? Same thing, if you do dont use it.
I finally start to think that its not blizzard that kills the spec, its the players themselves that do. When you whine about the single spell that makes fDK use brain cells you actually make it worst than 4 key DHuntards.
Cryroth plays pvp, he has other reasons for not liking it and good ones but that does not come the same for you. Neither you can use it with your gear and low stats atm,at least not use it efficiently.
I’d rather they rework frost completely rather than give it one spell to maintain lmao.
I play blood, not frost, so whatever. But hey, I’m sure that spamming obliterate to maintain BoS requires a lot of skill. /s
Let’s get a few things straight here. BoS requires very little skill to use, so I seriously doubt that mechanical complexity is the reason why it’s unpopular. The issue is that the BoS gameplay is boring af. Not being able to use half the abilities just so you can maintain one spell is boring. You may like it, others might not. However, other talents aren’t much more more engaging either so what frost really needs is a complete rework. But for now, at least balance the talents so that BoS ain’t the only option as many find it boring. Not hard to play. Boring.
No, you dont spam oblitarate on pve to maintain BoS, its far more than that. But my greatest complain is because it was removed from blood. I guess you never tried it thats why you dont like it, anyways bos on blood was easy, on frost moderate and very hard for UH.
It was granting 10% of total damage as healing to blood, it was MASSIVE AKA todays warriors
Nowadays yes, you have a ton of stuff that will give you RP and its not hard STILL its what makes frost to actually use brain cells and separates it from entirely braid dead specs, the ones you would like to play im sure of.
Ive also mentioned above it should be reworked to be more like DH"s meta that stays up for a duration instead of having to keep it up or at least give a pvp talent that will allow it to have an uptime and dont get chain cc’d and the cd just die.
Actually, I played it as Blood and as festerblight Unholy in WoD. I know how it used to be. And I was good at it. Still don’t consider it iconic dk spell.
Considering you know nothing about me or my skill, I’d ask you to stop making stupid assumptions that I’d like to play braindead specs.
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I don’t judge you for liking it though. But Like Uruk stated