I mean, people are joining GDKPs with loterally 50-100k gold (Togc hc/Ulduar Hc) and im sitting here struggling to make my consumable and repair quests off dailies and inscription is laughable now which is my main prof. I had about 2000g fsaved from a week of dailies after expenses and i am sitting here watxhing gdkps tell me 40k minimum budget…wtf? Does everyone just make a pally to boost HoS to support their gdkps or how in the world can you make any respectable gold right now outside of gdkps?
Do a couple of dailies every day, that nets you 200-500g per day. You can get even more depending on how many you do.
People are buying the wow token.
Just lie how much gold you have and say you wanna buy the item that don’t dropped and make a leech a nice cut
People are just incredibly efficient doing dailies this time around. 500g from daily cap on 10 characters and you have made 5k gold in a single day. That’s almost your minimum GDKP budget done in a week. And since people are so incredibly efficient, there are many other sources outside of doing 250 quests every day.
(Or just buy the 5k gold for 8 dollars on some unnamed website. But that’s obviously not what’s going on in the GDKP community since they all play this game fair and square).
No one should join GDKP’s ever. Its same as buying characters and accounts from ebay.
uhm crafting. Actually inscription is a very lucrative prof. You just have to make sure you mill your own inks, which can be time consuming
nobody is doing dailies and inscriptions lol, dont listen to them
truth is that most of the people today swiped their credit card, and the ones who did not have learned what to abuse on ah for money. i personally use jwc/ench/alchemy to make money on ah, i buy mats cheap sell crafted good high, and i manipulate prices for certain products
In short, they are BUYING gold with real money since well… forever. End of story, and very few ppl there who has strong ah/professions game.
People earn gold by joining gdkps, the actual swipers are a small minority. Just join some dog gdkps and leech like crazy until you have enough to join the actual good ones.
Just some DM jump runs man come on, these guys are out there grinding hard, don’t try and diminish their hard work!
A lot of these gdkp players have 5-6 characters they need to fork out 50k+ a week for!
Get yourself down to DM and mine some crystals!
While that is true, it does not change the fact that almost all the gold came and still comes from RMT. Without RMT there would be close to zero GDKPs. Token aside, fresh GDKP gold from buyers comes from bots or GDKP leaders, reselling the gold.
Of course, as a carry, you can get decent amounts of gold by joining GDKPs. Botters and GDKP leaders can sell huge amounts of gold. Buyers are happy too, because as long as they swipe enough, its basically p2w for them. While everyone participating profits in a way, its all fueled by RMT and that itself is a situation, that many players criticize.
Blizzard, instead of doing something about RMT culture, chose to join in with their token. For the RMT/p2w haters, the war is already lost.
To meet the minimum required to join GDKPs I recommend you to keep doing dailies but more important, you make most of your gold out of professions, if you have several char you make even more.
Keep in mind that joining a GDKP with intention of leeching will get you banned from many communities tho. So try to spend or at least bid high on the first runs, you will get cut anyway.
And where do you think this gold being traded around comes from in the first place?
Of course you will not be popular in the blood money community if you’re not just giving in to their money laundering scheme
This is wrong, the prices would just be different. Same as AH prices, they would also change.
On topic though.
I earn more gold than i spend, maybe i have gold-friendly consumes.
You can still play the AH and get somewhat decent profit at times. I’ve seen people sell items for less than vendor price (un-cut gems that you can vendor after you cut it, cloth which you can make First aid stuff with and vendor for a profit). Some of them get you like 60g/hr (which is kinda crap:P) But i’ve had 460g/hr by just afk crafting in dala.
I brought gold from tbc, which gave me a nice budget to start off with. Also knowing what items comes and goes with each patch, also gives you an advantage. Last phase, titanium bars sold for 2g, now they can sell for upto 12g.
Its the little things imo.
But NO farming method beats a lucked out GDKP. You can risk it and fake your budget as a buyer, and pray that an upgrade doesnt drop. But if you get caught you will get blacklisted:P
Personally I disagree, I think if these people had to actually earn the gold without being able to buy it, GDKP wouldn’t get off the ground, similar to how in OG vanilla+tbc+wrath GDKP was largely unheard of and had a small number of regular participants.
Now it is extremely popular due to the change in gamer culture, but i also think its simply the ease in which you can buy gold and not expect reasonable punishment.
(and then sell it for $)
I dont have any facts or statistic on this, beside the few people i speak to about it.
But my impression is that you have more gold left in the end, after doing gdkp, even if you buy items. Ofc this only applies to those who join as pumpers, and only need an item or 2.
I dont know when exactly the GDKP-method was “invented”, OG vanilla was a fresh game and not very pug friendly i’d say, things changed abit in tbc but not that many gdkps. There were botters and gold-sellers in OG vanilla too, maybe not as many and the punishments were harsher.
However, in og wotlk, there was quite a few GDKPs. I still remember DFO going for 80k the very last week before cataclysm came. So people had gold back for sure, did they farm it themselves? highly unlikely, but it existed still.
Why we didnt have gdkp in classic vanilla, i dont know. We did have gdkp in tbc though.
Yeah, im struggling to find SR pugs nowadays. I think people like gdkp because you are guaranteed something in the end. Its not fun raiding the same content for months on end, when you are missing that 1 piece, and lose the roll to some fresh 80 either:P (its uncommong, but you get the idea)
I’m only talking here about a hypothetical “what if gold buying was never allowed”.
Your rich people would be AH moguls or 14 hour a day daily/farmers.
There would be so little multiple gold cap 16-char raiders like there are now.
i mean im an ah troll and ive made almost 200k from it since thekal released, but it takes minimal effort for high profit, its just most people are really bad at making gold.
for example, i can buy 10k g worth of titanium ore, prospect it, and make my money back and between 3-7k profit depending on rng and titanium powder prices. (a lot of tricks like this exist for profit)
you can spam green lvl 70 jwc rings and diseanchant them as well, easy way to triple your investment
Your values are worthless here because you are making gold in an inflated economy fueled by RMT.
This value would be much, much lower in the hypothetical scenario of “no gold buying allowed”.
Farming dailies might actually be a worthwhile time sink and the average gold amount people hold would be vastly lower.
As its stands now, if you are a new player and expect to gain reasonable amounts of gold from doing “normal” activities like farming gold with dailies, you are wasting your time.
Not engaging with the economy cripples your gold/time investment, an economy incredibly inflated by RMT this time around, even more so than OG.
The bottom line is that without RMT and gold inflation from botting, normal activities in game to earn gold are more worthwhile.