They got immunity to slows, range 10 sec daze that slows also for 8sec, immunity to dmg, full heal 1 global ability, highest melee dmg out of everyone, they can out heal most dps classes dmg as dps. is there anything they dont have? Can we have paladins for horde because i like to reroll paladin to just have everything for pvp.
You can kite a paladin forever if you want. Skill issue
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only if the paladin is bad, but if you got daze, hoj 5sec immune to slow, talent to move faster than anyone else. how do you kite it?
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I never Had Problems as shaman ves Paladin in Classic. He doesnt have ms so you can easy outheal him, Kite a Bit, purge His seals, and He will die to lightning shield and shocks…btw Just grounding totem His hoj 
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Luckily that’s most of them.
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Here’s a few points that should be looked at before claiming pallies are OP:
1- Max lvl is 25, meaning there will be balance issues between classes who are stronger/weaker on earlier levels than others.
2- Paladins have no sprint/blink/jump or any ways of getting MS besides the passive +15% talent. They have been, are, and apparently will keep on being the most kitable class in the game.
3- Paladin is indeed strong in melee combat on early levels (and was so during original tbc, when I started playing). At level 29 Paladin is easily one of the beefiest classes around, with good sustain, good damage (even without crusader strike and divine storm, which didn’t exist on a lvl 29 pala in tbc). But that does fade as levels go up. Eventually, around the lvl 40 bracket, guess who becomes a powerhouse? You’re right, your very own shaman. Huge damage burst, better healing than paladins and enough tankiness to make a paladin pop his bubble, lay on hands, and probably still win.
But if you’re having sad moments playing vs paladin, I suggest you roll a mage, your feelings will immediately be replaced with others: joy, happiness in general. Be aware though, they may also come attached to feelings of shame for complaining about paladins on the forums when Mages make paladins feel like lvl 1 critters.
Hmm…
the most honest shaman on these forum, thanks…
paladin struggle since 20years (vanilla point of view)
imagine a WSG: 10 paladins vs 10 shamans, you can bet whatever you want on the shaman team’s win
#please Blizz add shaman dwarf and paladin undead !!!
#and no weekly cap / decay of ranks !!!
Oh no, first time ever in Classic Ret paladins are not a complete walking meme and it’s a rain of tears already.
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Mage at 40 will completly take a dump on paladins, Frost gets unlocked, they will have more range so they can kite from outside avengers range, 2 blocks to live and icebarrier.
Shamans will have elemastery, imagine how fun that will be to play against with lavaburst. You can always win against dumb shamans that don’t purge or overpurge by spamming rank 1 seals and watch them go oom, pretty sure that will catch on quickly though.
If you’re going to complain at least get the numbers right. HoJ is 4 sec stun. “Talent to move faster than anyone else”. Have you actually seen a paladin with the 8% increase? It’s barely noticeable and won’t make any difference in a fight against someone who can cc you repeatedly.
Remove AS and tell me how we’re supposed to catch any ranged opponent? Near impossible with the near infinite cc casters and ranged has.
Hunters could literally just run in the opposite direction whilst slowing and paladin would never get close. Mages can bait freedom, sheep and now paladins has no way to catch up. Warlocks can spam fear, etc. Paladins are strong, but they’re still easily kiteable by a player who has a resemblance of skill
as a paladin i cant catch most of the range classes after my first hof goes off and theres nothing i can do to reach hunters and mages, shamans outrun me with wolf or 2 shot me with lava burst. You are probably very bad at playing a shaman.
I think everyone knew that Warriors will be the highest DPS at 60 again but no one expected them to be the kings at 25 as well.
Wonder if Blizzard knew this was gonna happen or not 
worst part is ppl dont understand how overpowered paladin is.
i was going to type more but most ppl are not very smart or good overall so cba
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Depends. Wars n Hunters have an epic wep, which is more powerful that non epic items.
Having said that, Warriors got some insane runes for pve dps. I dont think many are surprised that op runes + rare epic = Warriors smashing.
Get me some more HolyPaladin fun! I would love to have some diversity. <3
Earthbind + flameschock+lava burst+Earthock then frosthock, purge in between and AA. I haven’t yet come across a paladin I couldn’t solo.
Some take time to kill but they all die.
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If you’re getting outhealed by a retpaladin as damage dealer class, I strongly suggest you quit the game.
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i have yet to see a warrior doing anything above 70 dps in bfd, and i raid it with 3 chars
meanwhile i do 130-140 on my rogue without wbfs, and ive seen melee hunter go over 180 dps. doesnt seem like warriors are too crazy atm
Not hard at all. Even I have 110 dps on bosses in bfd without a 2h from the bosses in BFD. I dont even play with the best runes afaik.