How is this game still a stutterfest 3 years after dragon riding was added?

Yesterday I noticed the game altered my graphics settings for no reason by turning on highest AA setting and increasing MAX Foreground FPS setting.

The performance decrease was dramatic.

Maybe check if everything is set up the way it should be. Still no idea why my graphics settings have changed suddenly, up to that just few days after I posted here that I have no issues :slight_smile: The only reason that comes to my mind is that I played with other WoW account.

Prove to me in a video, even with a 4,000 euro PC, how you perform in a 40-player BG or in a 30-player raid.
I already know the answer, you will lag, even if you have a configuration significantly higher than the recommendation that the game requires.
It’s a fact: the game is poorly optimized. I was especially surprised by this, especially since Legion.

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Nobody plays that.
Most raids are around 20 people and you have zero performance issues there.

Lag is a delay caused by latency, not your hardware.

No, it’s false

As I said, it’s false, and there are fewer people playing it because the performances are horrible.

That’s what I’m saying, the game is poorly optimized

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No, it’s not. It’s not even gonna be 1%… probably not even 0,5%
You can clearly see there are never 30 people raids and the 40 player bgs are extremely unpopular and were always mostly used to afk farm honor, which is why barely anyone plays it now.

Na, non-sense. People don’t play it because half the group is always afk. You have barely control over the match if you play solo or with a friend. It’s the least played content in the game. There is no fun whatsoever, you either avoid all fights or you clash into each other and stupidly mash buttons, hope you live long enough to press one full rotation lmao…

If it was somewhat desirable content, you would also see Blizzard improving performance, if there were issues.

I know what I’m talking about. I’ve probably done 70 runs with 30 people since season 1. There are no problems in the middle of the patch.
Right now, yes, there’s no one, because there’s MOP + summer vacation + the PTR.

delusinal haha

It’s true that if you are in a boost group, or a group where the RL has mediocre XP and no knowledge of how to form a good group, it doesn’t help.

the performance is horrible because the game is coded with the feet

They just save money and don’t care about the details and quality of their game.

Another topic, but just as important as optimization, is all the reskins. They haven’t created any new mob skeletons since BFA.

Look at the graphics, nothing has changed in 8 years+.

we just play a game where the fees are lower that’s all

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You did over 70 raid runs with 30+ people? Show me, I am really curious.

What boost group? Nobody cares about these mass “pvp” in WoW for ages… it was used for afk honor farm for pretty much always…

I am not saying WoW graphics are innovative or good.
Just saying there are no real performance issues for probably like 99% of people. If there is some dead content where a small minority experiences some performance issues, that I can believe but I also understand why devs don’t care, it’s kinda self-explaining.
If there were serious performance issues for the majority, you would see them at least trying to fix those.

When I got my new pc some months ago I had fps stutters. Pretty much the same fps stutters can be replicated by having your mouse hover over the actual fps window that shows it for you and then move your character.

I do not remember how I fixed it however but I had to do a dozen setting changes in wow and on my pc so my game would run without a single lag or fps stutter even in dornogal. That said the fps drops a little in dornogal and dragonriding in general.

Thats not my point, the point is yes wow has been always bad optimised but honestly i dont see any stuttering or something that hinders my gameplay. Yes it can be horribly optimised so what. Some gamers here needs to be a pc engineer because they can make games like a boss it seems lol haha

You don’t have a point, your point is that you don’t care how the game runs, and neither should anyone.

People are lying. Simple as that. They lie…
Ask them do they have massive stutters while flying in Dornogal and if they say no then they lie.

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WoW is an old game. It’s not even necessarily bad optimization. Even if they have improved WoW’s engine to keep up with the times, there is just a hard limit to how much horsepower it can get out of your CPU and to a lesser extent GPU.

Why should anyone lie about bad performance?
People complain about the least relevant things yet about something that major, they would lie? Really… when literally being negatively affected themselves? Makes no sense.

I mean, in populated cities like Dornogal and Valdrakken before it, every single PC is going to stutter because of hard engine limitations. Anyone claiming otherwise is just being a contrarian for the sake of it.

How exactly do you define a stutter?
I got 200+ fps in front of the AH in Dornogal. If I drop down to ~180 fps, do you consider that a stutter, or does it actually have to be an actual “mini-freeze”?

Yeah, I call cap. I have an overclocked 4080Super and 9800X3D which gets me around 160 FPS in the same location. If I go to the middle where people congregate, it drops to 100-110.

Unless you’re going to some place in Dornogal where there’s no additional players on your screen, I just don’t believe you.

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Ye, you are not the first one and surely not the last one.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iQ2oqXSf1Q4
That’s with view distance 10.

You must have some issue with your build. There is no way you have only 160 fps with that. Self built or pre-built?

Is that an old video? Because I don’t even see CPU Utilization in the bottom right. It’s approximately 5% for me in Dornogal.

Self-built and absolutely not. I reach my 200 FPS cap in most other places where there aren’t tons of players on screen. Again, it’s not a PC issue so much as it is the fault of WoW’s old engine.

Maybe it’s WoW.

All I know is that when DF came out I was having so much stutter, I was lagging constantly and whenever I was dragon riding I literally got loading screens if I went too fast. It was unplayable.

But then I got an SSD and 32GB RAM and a 4070 and everything was buttery smooth.

I reckon they didn’t bother optimizing it for old builds when the DF pre patch came out.

Yes I think it’s from season one indeed. Didn’t think it’s that old already.
Here is a screenshot from right now in front of the AH in Dornogal.
https://imgur.com/lA9iG3V

I mean I don’t need 200+ fps, I am usually capping everything to 144 anyway in all games.
Reduce view distance if your PC has issues for whatever reason. I don’t have it idk.