Dude leave it alone. They are all freakin’ trolls that are absolutely clueless about the state of Warlocks.
I am 100% sure these are people that kick fear with berserker off coldown, reflect immolates then cry they took 2x chaos bolt with DS up to the face.
We were literally a laughing stock at the AWC. Wallrik was dying in 2 seconds the moment melee connected to him. BfA is the expansion that made Snutz gave up on Locks.
Not really no. People were really afraid of some Destro Assa teams. I remember it distinctively because it forced Assa into a weird build to fit the comp.
Feel free to check replays and you’ll see you’re mistaken.
Thing is in awc it’s all about playing a counter, lock were disgusting with mage cause of gpy spam and chaos bolt mostly but outside of this comp you could just line and chill while lock used CD or chain kick/stun/reflect etc… If your team has tools.
It’ s hard to tell if x spec is good or not on ladder compared to tournament cause all player are so good and they also mostly play to not die and take less risks etc…
In the end no spec should be terrible cause it was broken during an xpac Imo.
Affliction was d tier whole BFA…
Demo was D tier whole BFA
I just did. Aside from BfA S4; they were annihilated.
Thats not even what I am saying. What I am saying is that Dest wasn’t “broken” in the entirity of BfA. It was beyond broken in the last season.
Because in S4; everything came together. Demon Armor buff, haste from Flash Point and Versatility and/or Mastery from Corruptions.
Just think about it for a second. What do you think have changed from BfA to SL that made Dest the least favored spec?
Corruptions gone. As simple as that. Yes Demon Armor got nerfed a bit but it got buffed again. The only major difference is literally the Corruptions themselves. Because due to Corruptions Dest became this insanely tanky spec that would cast 0,5 second Chaos Bolts.
I just can’t comprehend or take serious people that can’t understand such simple stuff about a spec. Which means they are either trolling OR as I’ve said before; they simply have no idea how to play against Dest Lock. I would bet my money that these people reflect Immolates, kick Fear when they have Berserker’s Rage then use stun absolutely randomly. Eventually proceed to take 2x fat bolts to face and die like a moron.
It was broken season 4 but in season 2 and 3 it was still S tier anyway it’s a bad explanation for not making it at least a tier.
I said that for telling stuff like ‘’ you had your time… ‘’, démon armor was very strong and lock was super hard to take down but people also tend to forget that every melee (except rogue and survival iirc) were using double tank trinket while xpac almost basically made all melee unkillable.
I think these people also forget how Rogues and DHs were deleting people left and right with the spine trinket when it critted. That was nothing compared to Dest Locks. At least thats my opinion.
Current class design is a joke.
While Demo and Destro need time to ramp up their damage, during that time they are vulnerable to CC, interrupts, and reflections. DH, monks, warriors, druids just press a few buttons and unleash damage equal or even higher than damage of Destro and Demo.
None of these classes has the same amount of bugs and nuances as warlock.
None of them has a heal that works one time per fight - healthstone.
I agree, tbh I always like playing demo but it was so horrible to reach 2k4 in bfa than a just gave up this xpac (even if it is retarded now but I hate the game play and Yolo no brain kill).
I still hope one day demo will get back to a fun and fluid gameplay
Then do it again but keep in mind that not winning the grand finals isn’t being anihilated.
Also, actually being played by several teams several times at an AWC, even if you lose, is a good sign of a spec working well.
Anyway all the matches are readily available so lets simply end this debate and whoever wonders about it will go have a look and see what is up.
That was literally every single melee, not Rogue and DH. And btw Rogues and DHs were actually the ones doing the least damage with that trinket because they played full Gushing when every other melee had full versa amps, greatly empowering the trinket.
Actually the most disgusting was likely Arms WW MW with all three of them having it.
Oh I did watch AWC, don’t worry.
I watched how Locks became a laughing stock: https://youtu.be/ts3rkiCIGS0?t=162
YOU meanwhile probably watched the S4 VoDs (2020 and onwards) and came to the conclusion “Bruh, Locks are pumping, they were insane throughout BfA” and forgot the miserable 1st 3 seasons.
P.S: Go ask Chanimal why he was benched by Snutz’s Rogue in the earlier seasons despite Dest being beyond broken pre-S4.
I think this sentence written in basic English is very clear :
Was it not ?
Also it’s never said “beyond broken”, it’s said good in the meta. Read first, answer next.
I am kind of confused. What I am saying is that Warlock was literally a laughing stock in the AWC because it would die mere seconds pre-S4. I am not saying it wasn’t played; I am saying it was absolutely garbage.
Use that brain of yours a bit more pelase and start realizing Lock pre-corruptions were garbage in BfA.
Look how many Destro Locks were sitting in Top 10 in BFA S2
No 
you are just bad at the game
face it and now go practice instead of spreading ur worthless opinion in forums
Theres so much wrong in this topic its unreal. Anyway locks (and casters overall) on TR were way better than on ladder. All these lock memes were from times before demon armor existed (till 8.0.5. which is like august - november) after that they were very strong on TR and kinda aids to play on ladder unless you abused mld (till s4 where tank trinkets were nerfed and we all know how it looked like).
That’s just not true. All the data from both AWc and ladder in all BfA seasons is still available and factually proves you wrong.
Also, you’re contradicting yourself which shows your argument is very shaky.
“Warlock wad bad on AWC”
no it wasn’t, then a link with the top ladder being locks is shared
“I mean lock was much better on TR than on ladder”
so if they are the entire top 10 teams on ladder and are better even on AWC realms …?
In any case, I kindly ask you to look both ladder and AWC for S2 and S3 and you’ll see you are gravely mistaken. Someone already showed you for S2, so … that’s one less thing to do.
I don’t really get people denying a spec of their class is or was strong. Is there a feeling of shame somehow to be associated with a good spec ? Does it make it feel like accomplishments aren’t worth as much ?
I love this picture. It is so sweet.
First of all; I love the fact that you used personal ratings. But more than that; I love that fact that you just used season 2 data 
Now, I am gonna go ahead and use your own logic to determine a class’ viability.
arenatracker. com/historical-data.php?season=29
BfA S4.
No Warlocks in sight.
God damn, I guess Warlock was way OP in S2 and was just absoluete garbage in S4. Now I can at least go around and say Warlocks were garbage in S4 and just solid in S2. Thanks for doing me this favor dog.
Enjoy the season 4 one I posted. Now, i am gonna go ahead and sht on everyone that says Warlocks were OP in S4 since you guys are using the ladder data to make a determination.
You must be a 
thinking that just from corruptions removal warlock was bad in SL season 1.
Tremendous amount of class changes + new borrowed powers (legendaries + covenants + conduits), this happened. S4 bfa lock was a joke, sitting middle and casting 24/7 with 0 drawback.
Destro Warlock was good in bfa S2 amd S3, because the meta was slow, and he actually got the chance to cast something.
Now Destro is bad, because the meta is just too fast for it to hardcast every damage spell. Affliction and Demo are good on the other hand.
I don’t know why you keep saying lock was bad in bfa, while it was exactly the opposite. And regarding the state of Locks on SL, is kinda a L2P issue. Most bfa lock glads, especially the s4 ones, couldn’t break the 1.8 bracket in SL, wonder why? Perhaps the class is not obnoxious anymore and it needs a bit of brain to be played?
We have pretty much proven that Locks were decent for the entirety of BFA.
You said it was garbage prior to BFA S4
Now you are just desperately acting like a child. Just relax and practice instead of being delusional