How long will it take until the cap is big enough for a full set of gear? Until that date starting to gear an alt now is pointless
You need 11 075 conq for a full set of gear. If you use 2 legendarys you can take away about ~1400 from that if you average out the pieces to 700 each. (1050 if you pick 2 cheep items and 1750 if you pick 2 most expensive).
That leaves us with 9675 conq needed.
You get 550 each week.
9675 / 550 = 17.6 weeks. Just a quarter of a year + one month. 
ps.
I hate this system
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i mean if you cap every week you get alot of vaults so its way less than 17 weeks and if you start later you can catch up.
4 Months basically until you can deck out in conquest gear… that’s absolutely brutal for a new player considering some people have full raid gear/m+ gear at high item levels mixed with PVP items already and 2-3 months after that point they will hit the big reset button and usher in the next season lol…
Broxiz you can’t “catch up” on missed vaults.
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its not 4 months since you get vault every week when you start late and grind and you can get the conquest from the previous weeks…
you are behind yes but not 4 months
Well, the OP got it right there in the title that it’s about how long it would take with no vault rewards. So basically assume the most unlucky player you’ve ever seen with nothing but the worst stats combinations possible that’s completely useless in the vault every week (I’ve actually had a few weeks like that myself already, gotta love nonstop crit and mastery as rdruid). 
Or assume someone who only does solo PvP and caps conquest that way.
You are talking about me here, havent gotten a single item i can use for pvp yet couse of wrong stats so i cant catch up to other players.
Also making my 4th shaman now becouse i cant get the stats i need on the gear. So every alt / new main that you start playing with now wont be able to catch up untill a few month. So if you want to be competetive, play something els until the end of the summer. Guess that is when 9.2.5 will come and we get rid of that amazingly bad conq cap that is messing this up.
People are defending this system in so many threads. My guess is that they are missing their brain or gotten really lucky with these past vaults.
Way too long.
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ye really sucks being that unlucky.
often its still worth using the piece since primary stats are higher and prim stats > secondary stats.
its really not that bad. i got lucky on my main my vaults were kinda perfect (except only 1 set-piece). on my alt dk i have only 4 items compared to main which has 8 items. theres a dif in powerlvl but its not like u cant be competitive. like both my dk’s are almost at the same rating with my alt even at better winrate currently. so ye stop whining and q up. stop tellin urself gear is the thing that holds u back and improve if u wanna climb. u will catch up gearwise eventually.
if u just wait and not gear urself u will be way more behind and will have a bad time when the cap is eventually high enough to gear full. like u then still have to q to earn the points and most people then are already fully geared.
As a shaman, stats matter a ton. Just becouse it dosent matter on your DK dosent mean it dosent matter on other classes.
There is no point in playing vesper totem if you are not full crit gear.
There is no point in playing Necro ele if you dont got haste.
I would think most casters are bound to haste and its really important. And im pretty grounded and know my limits, but i also know that gear is a big diffrence and its a complitly ruined and broken system atm that makes it so RNG determins if you can play or not and you cannot get gear from any other source.
Keep paying blizzard untill you can play.
Also im not worried about being behind. Other way around, if there were no cap i could get the gear i needed to play in a day. Most people could. But now you cant. You have to wait a quarter of a year before you can play the game so i guess thats about 40€ wasted in wating for 9.2.5.
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stats matter for every specc/build. that u should prefer a higher i lvl on pieces is regarding single pieces not the whole gear.
with ur gear u can play. prob not all speccs at a time to their full potential but ye we are playin an mmorpg here keep that in mind.
what? if u “could play” now u would pay as well. its just that wow is an mmorpg where ur powerlvl increases over time. this is not a 30min moba game.
add to that math that you can get trinkets from new quest and there is no big diffrence between honor insygnia and conquest one so like -1400
alsow RNG vault give alot depends from yuo luck
yest PvP gearing take a bit but if you compare it to how long it took in tbc/wotlk or cata/mop/wod systems its styl faster then it was
Further compounded by the fact that you can only get tier from the vault so if you wait to start gearing an alt until cap is expanded you’ll need additional weeks of grinding flux and changing pieces via catalyst.
Meanwhile PvE players fully geared and done with tier after 4 weeks, somehow deterministic gearing is the problem?
well not realy , if you will start playing or make new alt in lest say May you will have much higer conquest cap and alsow Catalyst chargest are alsow supoust to work similar to conquest and valor cap is so you will only need gear and like 8k flux to make 4 sets what is not so hard
P.S. raiding normal/hc on main every weeks and got like 6-9 items in Vault got like 2t only cos guildis trade me parts they alredy had so
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