How one button will ruin retail

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Over the years, World of Warcraft has evolved into a highly complex experience. Much of this evolution has been driven by a more skilled and competitive player base, supported by tools like WarcraftLogs, dbm, details and countless others. These addons, originally created to improve quality of life, overtime we had addons like: WeakAuras, Hekili, MaxDps and they have become a requirement for many players. not because they bring joy, but because they feel mandatory for performance.

  • New and returning players are overwhelmed by the expectations.
  • Casual players feel left behind due to time constraints.
  • The game demands not only skill, but a suite of third-party tools to even compete

Yes, WoW has always been a numbers game, but the focus has shifted too far. Addons no longer enhance gameplay, they replace learning. Instead of encouraging players to improve, many just follow a script, driven by performance pressure and a fear of being left out. addons like WeakAuras, Hekili, MaxDps does not encourage learning.

We Don’t Need an In-Game Hekili

Game Director Ion has acknowledged some of these concerns, but here’s where I think the conversation needs clarity:

We don’t need Blizzard to build a one-button rotation into the game. We don’t want the game to play itself.

What we do need is:

  • Better in-game guidance for how to play your class.
  • Tooltips, tutorials, and territorial (context-aware) prompts that help players understand abilities and rotations without combat automation.
  • A smoother, more intuitive learning curve that respects new players without trivializing gameplay.

Keep making the game feel big. But Teach Us How to Explore It

WoW needs to feel big. It should be rich with opportunities to improve, grow, and master your character over time. That’s what makes it fun.

Let the game teach players. not play for them.

Imagine if WoW had its own in-game “Proving Grounds 2.0”, or an adaptive guide system that offered non-intrusive help outside of combat. Not a rotation bot, just something that helps you understand the why behind your toolkit.

Please Don’t Turn WoW Into a Console-Style One-Button Game

There’s a growing concern that things might go in the direction of simplified, one-button gameplay for the sake of accessibility. If that happens, we risk losing what makes WoW special: the satisfaction of learning and improving.

  • Reduce unnecessary button bloat.
  • Improve in-game explanations of abilities.
  • Guide new players through contextual learnin, not combat automation.
  • Addons are useful, but they’ve become too essential to performance.
  • Make the game more beginner-friendly without compromising its depth.
  • Preserve the challenge, but reduce the friction.

We don’t mind people getting Tokens, coins, gear upgrades. We don’t mind catchup systems, gear rewarding or anything. But gameplay should be left to every individual playing the game.

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Didnt read the wall of text .

It didnt eveolve into complex only into idioticly way to complex and too overcomplivated.

Blizzard seeing the popularity of classic realised how badly the … Up .

Good that the realisation came now instead never

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Thats why we got classic for all your “frostbolt spamming till the day you :headstone:” needs. :slight_smile:

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The argument ‘that’s why you have Classic’ doesn’t really work for me. We played this version of the game back in 2004 — we know it inside and out. Suggesting that we go back to a 20-year-old game instead of having a real discussion about current changes feels like shutting down players who care about the quality and direction of the game. Classic isn’t a solution, it’s a nostalgia trip. We want the current version of the game to be good too, not have to choose between stagnation and an outdated alternative."

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Ago I read in reddit. Player become parent. Need carry thier sweet baby.
Person happy got one button when he can easy play WoW.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1kd681e/im_ready_for_one_button_rotation/

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I just like how their answer to the game being designed around addons is not getting rid of addons and taking a new design route but instead adding in a tool to play the game in a more simple way.

It’s just silly.

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Who is “we”? And whats good for you?
A “classicized” retail? Sry, if I want to spam my frostbolts or level my dagger skill by 1hit/per hour leveling…I got classic for that.

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Some people need to understand that there is no “WE” in this matter. Every players is vastly different.

For some players that are very casuals and have little time to spend in the game, they only want little “exploration”. Other players want to spend 12 hours a day into the game. What wow has managed to do is provide a game for both of those players.

Everything you wrote cannot be accomplished without greatly streamlining the game into a one size fits all category, losing both ends of the playerbase (the way too casuals, and the way too hardcore).

Overall the GAME can benefit with the in game hekili and one button rotation. Most of the players will not benefit because they will not use it, some few will benefit.

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Name one class with “unnecessary bloat”.

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the one button rotation is a dps decrease and from what ive heard and told, the rotations it does don’t even make sense as it stands currently, so. its got alot of work to do to get anywhere remotely competitive

but even then, the gcd increase alone is suffering enough as it is so i dont think its worth it for simplicity’s sake, this is one of those things being added for a very small minority.

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The one button rotation will be a dps increase for many players, even there is flat 0.2 GCD increase.

Even it is a flat 20% to 30% dps decrease compared to theoretically optimal possible manual rotation, it will still be an increase for many.

  • Most players can’t play every spec optimally, and will never reach the theoretically max dps.

  • It allows players to focus completely on the encounter mechanics, movement and avoidance etc, increase their survival chance and not worry about damage rotation at all.

  • It eliminates any possible misclick or mistakes made by human players.

Of course it will not be on the level of best players, but it will be upgrade for many new players or players simply don’t know how to play certain specs.

It also makes “facerolling” dream true. Just keybind every key on your keyboard to “1 button assist” and rolling your face on it. Or you can put your cats on your keyboard and they will do fine dps.

And who needs UI setup/addon or cd tracker/managers, when you don’t even need an action bar??? You can completely hide UI and focus on encounter movement.

Think about all the screen space you can save. Your boss fight view will be so much better and your survival chance increases. And as a result, your damage increases too.

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100% of raiders and M+ players are using addons that make everything quite easy ~and they complain …

I find amusing how those people-player find fault with this but not with using cheats like those addons

I’m looking on twitch ~pvp content and you can track the opposite player cds on every ability-trinket etc… Isn’t this a cheat ??
M+ the same .
If you remove Dbm/auras the average player will become the very casual .

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“Esports” events like RWF, MDI, or AWC should be hosted on tournament servers that completely banning addons.

If it is a race of player skills, then let the skills of gaming decides, not the skill of making WA and addons.

Those events are completely meaningless when non-player 3rd party addons are involved.

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Is it just me, but people can actively turn it off. I dont see the problem.

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It’s not.
If they simply removed addons, the outrage would be many many times the (very silly) ‘outrage’ about this one button system.

They are preparing the game so you won’t need combat addons anymore in the long run and then they can get rid of those types of addons.

Ion even explained this in the video. But I guess people like jumping on the ‘the sky is falling’ bandwagon without even properly understanding the system and how and why it’s being implemented.

To the OP: Why did this dumb topic need yet another thread?
It’s spam. Post in one of the already existing ones.

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If the rotation is wrong it doesn’t matter if you’re hammering one button or not if its not adhering to how your class is meant to be played then your overall damage will look low if you’re not doing whats meant to be done.

so that wont change

most people cant do this even with addons so this wont change anything for the most part.

Idk how its gonna look but with my class i atleast know that the one button rotation wont help you play how its meant to be played as its very easy to go about doing it wrong even with a “automated” rotation and i cant see one button being able to accomodate many if any what if scenarios if its just a very basic borderline rotation.

this will be applicable to 1 or 2 classes at best if i had to hazard a guess which would be dh /monk as they are very primitive, unless they really manage to cooperate with high end players to optimise it correctly which i doubt.

i have minimum UI myself and still comfortably track my own cds without needing a glaring weak aura screaming at me that deathmark is ready etc. i dont think one button will help some people remotley if the issue is their inability to follow tactics, i can see the appeal for maybe wanting to learn a new class but its far too early for me to give a more accurate judgement when its still on PTR etc and not live, but from what I had seen of it so far i wouldnt think too much on it any any competitive level.

I’m fairly confident, as somebody who has seen this implemented in similar ways across other gaming platforms and game types in general, this will not be as big of an impact as people are worried about it being.

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“i have minimum UI myself and still comfortably track my own cds without needing a glaring weak aura screaming at me that deathmark is ready etc. i dont think one button will help some people remotley if the issue is their inability to follow tactics, i can see the appeal for maybe wanting to learn a new class but its far too early for me to give a more accurate judgement when its still on PTR etc and not live, but from what I had seen of it so far i wouldnt think too much on it any any competitive level.”

You do have to think for the player base and not just how it would affect you personally. Its nice knowing that you can hide the ju, i could probably as well for playing my class for many years at a quite high level.

My topic is trying to have suggestion i condemned healthier for the community then the upcoming changes. This is not just a whining topic, it is an attempt to direct the game back to being an advance mmorpg. Adding this button and using highly automated addons is not healthy for this game and i am against using addons like hekili, but like many. Feeling forced using it so i dont fall behind on logs. That is poor design and should have changed years ago. I have talked about this with guildies and many of us are extremely worried that this will head in the wrong direction. We cant and should not accept it.

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10k gold says this feature is dead on release with nobody using it and all the elitists will start using “maybe use 1 button rotation and you won’t be bad” as an insult.

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Warlocks , shamans , monks , rogues and probably few others could use it too

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Lets bet !

Free 10 k gold for anyone who bets against you :slight_smile:

Watch the internet how hyped people are for this

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