How professions work now

Since a lot of you dont understand how new professions work Im here to give a few explantions and tips about it.

Personally, I think system is not perfect, but its definitely very good and with a bit of improvement this could be a very good system in a long run and I hope it’s here to stay for tiers and expansions to come.

I made a few millions just in this first month with professions alone, and my starting budget was around 60-120k.

Few key points now!

  1. “crafting items for myself with my profession is more expensive than just buying them from AH”

there’re 2 main reasons for this. First is pretty obvious, constant undercutters on AH (we love those people, dont we?) drop the price to very low for any item really, and over time prices go down enough where profit is minimal, but that’s nothing new. What’s new however is the profession stats such as multicraft, inspiration and resourcefullness.

what this means is that if you have those stats high enough, you save enough resources where you could sell crafted item for less than what it cost you to make and still make profit.

example with a bit of maths - you bought materials for 100 blacksmithing alloys and materials for each alloy cost you 1000g. in the past, without profession stats you could sell those alloys at around 1050 gold for no profit at all (because auction cut), and 1100 for approximately 50g profit per alloy. now however, with 20% resourcefullness and 20% multiecraft, statistically and with probability you’d end up with around 140 alloys. if you sell them at 1000g each, which is the crafting cost, you’d still get around 40% profit, if you sell them at 800g you’d still get profit of around 12%.

  1. “There’re never any public orders”

That’s correct, and its very easy to see why. because it takes 2-3 clicks to fulfil a crafting order, so whenever someone makes a public crafting order, for any profession it’d take around 12 people just sitting and crafting table and fulfiling those. on top of that pricing for public orders is very bad, and for a good reason too, people order things for 50 gold, 100 gold comissions, and you’re stuck between refusing to make those for nonexistant comissions, or clicking your mouse 2-3 times because 50 gold is better than nothing, and because if you dont do it, someone with 0 shame will do it instead.

and on top of that public orders are very limiting, you are unable to set minimum quality for a lot of “good” items, hence people prefer having items crafted by personal orders where you can set minimum quality and get the result you want. I think this is one big improvement we could see - letting us set min. quality to public orders. another big improvement I think we could see is, just letting us place orders for items from any expansion, and I really hope we’ll see this someday.

  1. “I cant level my professions to 100”

now Im not sure about every profession here ill be honest, but with blacksmithing and jewelcrafting I had 0 issues getting to 100 with old ways of “just craft for 5 minutes and you’ll be there”. so do correct me if im wrong but getting 100 is easily possible. aside from that, getting to 100 isnt as important in a lot of cases, sometimes 80 is as good for most if not all crafts. your skill doesnt define what you can craft, it only contributes to quality of the item. and I think having to think about what to craft and what you can craft is much more engaging than what we had in the past - getting to 100 and never touching the professions again.

all in all, while Im here I think couple of improvements we could see should include -

  1. min. quality set up for public orders
  2. make it possible to see other peoples profession stats
  3. include old expansion items into crafting orders

could think of more but Im sure blizzard couldnt care less about EU forums and im not being invited to council so that’s enough of suggestions LOL.

All that aside, game is social yet again, most high end orders require human interaction, and trade chat is being used for trading once again, that’s what everyone wanted, “social game hurdur” and now you have it.

a lot more to say but that for some other time.

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leveling blacksmithing to 100 is only easy if you buy a load of mats on the ah and craft useless repair hammers 40+ times…

also professions are basically useless for gearing alts or gearing between 61-70 as there’s barely paterns to do.

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Hoe much does your profession level contribute towards your skill of crafting items?

that was always the case tho? you had to do useless crafts to level professions, at least now its an option not a neccesatiy.

there’re quiet a few crafts you can do for alts and fresh 70s and most of them are very cheap to make/buy.

1 profession level = 1 skill

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What about the current system do you like then?

Just wanna pitch in that this is the first time in years trade is full of crafters selling items that are actually usefull for current content.

Might not be perfect,but people seem to enjoy it.

Nice tips too,thanks Buk!

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You should re title this, to how proffs work for the very few.

As in the goblins who saw this crap coming in Beta, abused the first 2 weeks of easy skill ups, cornered the markets and now sit in the ah with TSM botting for them. Meanwhile they sit at crafting tables able to make top tier gear with max skills, something 90% players cannot and will not be able to do for a month or so.

So, to those still looking to skill up proffs, do not bother, change to a gathering skill, farm and sell mats while the prices still half decent. Otherwise for the casuals, professions are 100% waste of time. No one wants your level 1 or 2 stuff. So you will have to use an alt to get your weekly Artisan quests done. The mats you use to try and get you to skill 100 will cost you a fortune and you could have bought the items created for far far less.

If you win the lottery and somehow get a lariat recipe drop, gz. Good luck getting customers to now pay a decent commission, as those that needed the neck now have them. Next round of sparks will be their alts getting geared and good luck getting commisions worth bothering with.

So again, on the whole this new crafting system for the majority of players, is bad, poorly implemented and I know has already caused a few friends to stop playing.

And there i was giving a 20k tip for a pair of boots

this is on wowhead with better formatting.

So you supposedly made millions from poopsocking first month of expansion… now imagine people that started later… they have no chance to do much, market is satured already, + low pop server clusters suffer from work orders being so vital to both end game power and maxing out some professions.

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as usual this attention craving poster is either blabbling too much larp or being rude ;o

If I order a gem, and I want the best quality, do I need to provide the best quality mats too? If I will, will I get the best quality gem for sure or someone can fool me?

No its 100% based on the skill level of the jewelcrafter compared to the difficulty of the craft.
Its just that high quality materials increase the base skill of the craft.
You’re better off asking your jewelcrafter if he needs q3 rank raw gems to ensure his q3 cut gems

for example as a blacksmithing you have some 343 gear, this recipe has very low difficulty and my skill is by now so relatively high for those crafts that even if I use full q1 raw ores those 343 gear crafts will still end up as q5

So basically depending on your JC’s skill level and the cut gems difficulty level for crafting you can easily find a JC that’ll turn your q3 uncut into a q1 cut and vice versa

false.

even if you start now, you can make very good profit.

again I havent tried all professions but from professions I did try - with Jewelcrafting you go into prospecting and that’s profitable on its own.

with blacksmithing you go into resourcefullness + inspiration combo with 30 points in alloys and that’s profitable.

you’d get enough points to do both of those things in a day.

with every gem except meta gems (Main stat+secondary) you can get guaranteed r3. with meta gems currently I can make r3s with procs but I believe with insight it should be possible to make meta gems guaranteed r3 as well with q3 diamond.

tho if you’re buying one recommended and cheap way would be finding crafter with decent inspiration and using q2 diamond and pray to rng for a proc.

Yea but without work orders I can’t make any significant income. I can’t get my profession past 70. I can’t unlock the high tier stuff people actually want. I check work orders every day and there are none. It’s such a failed system. Needs to be region wide at the very least, but I think there are other issues with it too.

so after few weeks using a low rank diamond i finally found a JC who can proc a rank 3 Resplendent Illimited Diamond
i decided to employ his services

Bought the mats, made a work order
he did not proc
Bought the mats again, made a work order
he did not proc
Bought the mats again, made a work order
he did not proc

i carried on with my life
20k gold flushed down the toilet

now i have 3 diamonds in my bag
that:

1- are unique (i’m already wearing one)
2- i cannot sell since they’re BoP
3- i cannot send to my alts since they’re not BoA
4- i cannot recraft since i don’t know why…

awesome game design really.

couldn’t you offer your 1 diamond up for a recraft work order?
they’re there specifically for this purpose and recrafting costs way less mats
if I don’t make a rank max quality for myself or a work order doesn’t turn into max quality, I just sit on the item till I can find someone with higher base skill (or I get higher base skill myself in case of my non q5 crafted gear) and order/perform a recraft

No
Apparently they forgot to make diamonds recraftable

They still have these weird decisions every now and then man
if its crafted it should be recraftable imo, especially finished products
RIP

It just sucks
If the crafter doesn’t proc then your diamond is for vendor pretty much