Agreed, it is a different demographic. Classic players mostly seek an easier raid experience, forgoing technical skill & teamwork in favour of grind and hours input.
Nah thats just what telegraph dodging dumb dumbs from world of catch up mechanics think classic is all about
Its a good laugh watching you all try make sense of why you care about classic enough to be here and you wouldnt catch me dead in a retail game or sub forum.
But thats how retail works right.
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Well you’ve already expressed why you play classic, and I’m not judging because it’s why I do too. There is something relaxing about killing these easy bosses 1% faster than the week before.
Retail on the other hand does my head in. Too technically demanding & competitive if you want to be in a top-performing raid guild.
How to beat gearscore:
Don’t suck at the game and be a pumper, when they ask for your GS, you show them your 99s, or atleast your orange parses.
You can orange parse, can you?
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Yeah its so hard how agro just isnt a thing and telegraphs are so obvious a 10 year old with 4 thumbs could pull it off. I especially like the ones that give you only 1 second more time than is required to dodge or youll get one shot.
Hardest ever.
They wont ask for my GS cos i be making my own groups without GS
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How to beat GS ?
Add rio, beat one cancer with another even bigger one …
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We need a new addon that gives people a number based on not only their gear score, but also their raid log parses for current content bosses. Then, a raid leader can choose whether to disregard the gear score based on the quality of the raid logs.
I did a VH 2 nights ago, I invited the first people who /w me. One of them was a caster dps who /w his GS, I think he said 4.1. Now guess who was bottom of the damage? The high “GS” Pvp geared player.
Most people who /w me GS are usually PvP’ers, or PVE’ers who have started by farming honor. I just don’t see any positives in an addon that favours players who have farmed honor over players who have farmed prebis in dungeons.
PvP has a lot of easily attainable ilvl200/213 loot that is mostly bad for PVE, worse than dungeon blues, but will give you a huge “GS”.
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How will you choose your invitees in future? Without any addon?
25 man raids that can be done in 15 men pug are easy… sry that it hurts you on personal level 
I mean how did I ever manage for the entirety of TBC? How did I manage, It’s not like all of T5, T6 and SWP were harder than T7 and still somehow I managed without GS?
HOW CAN IT BE DONE?
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Rather than give some snarky reply, why not say what you think is a better alternative? Are you going to manually inspect each person?
Of course you manually inspect people. GS addon doesn’t help because you can game it using PVP gear some of which is worse than TBC loot for PVE, but gives high GS. If I’m looking at a tank I want to see that he has avoidance and not just high stamina from PVP gear, if I’m looking at a healer I want to see if he has healing gear and not spell hit gear and dps trinkets.
If I’m looking at a DPS Warrior I want to see that he has considered balancing his hit/exp, which I can see at a glance. A Fury Warrior with 300 hit rating is not thinking about his hit balance, a warrior with 0 expertise is not thinking about his expertise balance, these guys wont do good dps.
I want to see they have some gems/enchants etc etc. I inspect.
But i want to know my gear power
A geared group clears naxx25 in 3hrs.
A bad geared has 6 bosses left after 3 hrs.
Drop the 10-30 min talk please, it is false
What you mean is bad group … naxx was made for people in blue/green gear, you can oneshot it with bad geared group in 3 hours …
If you get bunch of scrubs who focus only on GS, you will be wiping on anoob for 6 hours even if you have full T10 …
We saw exactly this on TBC too, end of TBC, half of raid was SWP/T6 and yet people were still wiping on magtheridon … which was designed for green geared people and then absolutely nerfed …
Oh pls classic and it’s silly show logs requirements, even worse.
Just make yours groups your way then.
I prefer faster and smoother.
PvE is dumb as hell, it doesnt allow for any personal builds or anything, you simply have one bis, meta build and everyone MUST follow it if they want to do their role properly …
Make addon that you feed with BiS builds for every class, and then you have simply 0-100 scale based on how close you are to your optimal build …
Every detail like low hit/def/exp, wrong talents, glyphs, enchants, weapons would affect the score … divide it by colour tiers, preraid would show green number, and then each phase bis would be blue, purple, orange etc …
It would still be hella toxic, because ofc it would, but at least it actually shows your gear progression …