How to fix incursion - not a tuning issue

[Darx-ravencrest]

I don’t think the issue of incursions is tuning and balance. Early on people were levelling about the same speed in dungeons and incursions. Instead I think there’s three issues:

1. Missions 4-9 are way too fast compared to the others.
2. The deputization mechanic forces people into groups that want everybody else in the party to go as fast as possible, which is toxic especially for people new to incursions.
3. It’s too easy to get all the quests.

Here’s my solution:

1. Remove the deputization mechanic. You get new missions by completing missions or via a new repeatable quest (see below).
2. Remove missions 4-9.
3. Add a new repeatable quest “Errand Boy” where you have to speak to the 3 elves and get the 3 items. This single quest gives the same rep and xp as 1 mission (not 6!). This quest gives you an additional mission.

Just reducing the xp for incursions isn’t going to fix the problems, as the six errand missions will still be the META for incursions. It’ll just stop people doing incursions if dungeons again become META. This is not a tuning issue!

[Burninhell-earthshaker]

Delete is the only solution

[Boómie-lone-wolf]

It was something different , the issue with it to me is how you get the missions, as you mentioned, you just want the 5 man setup and make sure you get those speedy ones.

to me the only thing that needs to change, is just remove that, and rather than every1 getting a new quest for every quest they turn in, you just get 1 new quest, as a random. and have a cap of 5 quests at a time in there.

So if you are a team of 5, you will get 5 random ones that cannot be changed each run.

Sometimes you will get lucky with the speedy ones and other times you will not.

The profession based ones are just bad. if you have to keep these in then add a special skinning knife or something that allows you to skin without being a skinner, so if you unluckily land a gathering mission you can still do it.

its only insanely fast at the moment because every1 is there distracting adds, once this quietens down, u will take a lot more damage just running through it

[Attap-twisting-nether]

@Darx-ravencrest

Here’s my solution:

1. Remove the deputization mechanic. You get new missions by completing missions or via a new repeatable quest (see below).
2. Remove missions 4-9.
3. Add a new repeatable quest “Errand Boy” where you have to speak to the 3 elves and get the 3 items. This single quest gives the same rep and xp as 1 mission (not 6!). This quest gives you an additional mission.

4. Also remove rep on levelling and give significantly more rep on 50. Because runes and some items locked behind this rep, so you need to farm it anyway, if you not farm it on levelling you have to farm it on 50 with the same speed. So it is 1 more reason why people would prefer incursions over dungeons or old quests (even if xp will be nerfed or something else), to do 2 things at once.

[Attap-twisting-nether]

@Burninhell-earthshaker

Delete is the only solution

Only problem with it is that people didn’t do it on all alts before nerf, will start complaining about it, they are already complaining about missed gold, and will complain even more about missed xp. SO only way for blizzard is stay exp same as now, but don’t repeat same mistake on next phase and disable incursions for 50-60 lvling.