How to handle melee?

Classes Warlock
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Rogue ganks me so quickly every time. It hurts my stomach so much.

Then huntars just ‘thfp’ ‘thfp’ and I am pretty much dead.

Shaman locks me, so I can’t shoot anything, even though it has low HP and my chaos bolts should’ve killed it. It lightning lassoes someone else while the huntar kills me when I am locked out.

I know there is some theory that if I somehow ‘fakecast’ (I can’t make this work, how will I ever know if they fell for it? Or the duration? What if I do it too long or not long enough? Impossible!), then am able to somehow ‘fear’ and then slow and then use portal and gateway, I could - IN THEORY - escape a rogue.

But in PRACTICE, I don’t have my gateways or teleport circle near me when a rogue surprises me - how can I anticipate that? Do warlocks have to be psychics to be able to escape a rogue or huntar?

In practice, Just get stunlocked, stunchained, and hit SO hard by some monk or whatnot, that if I can even escape, that’s great, but there’s no hope of handling any melee - DH can gank me so quickly, rogue is just too OP, druids … I have NO chance against, especially since they unfairly use covenant powers and level 60 players in lower brackets (should NOT be allowed!)…

This game is so ridiculous now, you can’t use goblin gliders if you join lower-level BG as level 60, but level 60s can use covenant powers. What kind of sense does that make?

I just rtealized firemage and monk can stalk warlock until it dies, and warlock can’t do anything. Any other class can escape, but even with gateways, I couldn’t escape, the monk just mounted and then started pounding me. I tried to use Cc, but after that was over, firemage and monk just killed me. I used soulstone so I could CC the monk, but they interrupted and locked me and I couldn’t even use infernal because of the lock!

So of course I just die.

Is there ANYTHING a warlock can do? I know the theory about mortal coil and unending resolve and fear and all, but it’s not enough, it doesn’t help, and they WILL gank me every single BG.

I don’t have this problem with any other class, but with warlock, it’s like everyone has painted a target on my forehead that says “free kill” and I can’t escape anything, not DH, not rogue, not monk, not firemage.

Can anyone tell me HOW you are supposed to play this thing in BGs?! I am definitely not having one drop of fun at all, this is so miserable I am almost crying.

Can anyone help? I can’t figure out how you’re supposed to even survive, let alone do anything useful in a BG when I can’t move and I am so slow anyway, CC is useless and chaos bolt takes 9 years to cast so everyone can just run away before I finish casting it. Couldn’t I at least cast it while running and have some kind of speed boosts or whatnot so I could at least TRYT o escape monk and firemage?

EDIT: Just last BG, I JUST got ganked by rogue and shaman. I tried to keep the shaman CCd, and it worked for awhile, but what am I supposed to do afterwards? I shot one chaos bolt, shaman tried to escape with our flag, so I ‘cleverly’ used the teleport circle, and BAM! SHaman was stalking me and I had no way to escape, I tried to use gateway, didn’t work, then I tried every single thing I could, shaman was still at me, then ROGUE stunned me suddenly out of nowhere JUST as I was going back to the gateway, they kill me, I use soulstone, then I can use the gateway, they catch me VERY quickly anyway and mercilessly gank me and I had NOTHING I could’ve done.

They were SO fast and SO powerfula nd basically two-shotted me, so I am at the end of my rope, WHAT is the concept of warlock, what am I supposed to be able to do?!

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Rogues have always been a warlock counter. Warriors and rogues will actively seek out warlocks in BG’s because they are an easy target.

Maybe here the shaman dropped the totem that absorbs spells. I can’t remember what it’s called.

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Not in MoP.

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i have ditched my warlock. besides my main that i love as a character and i gather some anima to unlock tomalin crystal mog, i refuse to play this class anymore. i used to play solely warlock before (had 4 at max level and nothing else when starting legion) , but after trying the other classes there is just no going back. class is miserable and totally unfun. they have butchered it beyond belief.

just roll something else, the list is way too long as to why you should do so. but know that on my monk, if i see a lock, i tunnel it and it dies. period. they dont have a single chance. its pathetic.

however fake casting is important in pvp for any casters, including healers. you just gotta accept that melee once their interrupt is up can “micro stun” you until its off and you can actually cast something.
honestly its just practice and intuition, there is no black and white answer to fake casting. however, since you say you play destro, try to cast a fear: if they dont interrupt, free chaos bolt if their trinket/cds are down, if they do, free chaos bolt since they dont have the interrupt. usually a rogue will for example kidney you there if his cloak is on cooldown, but now he used 2 ccs that overlap.

thats how u win. but u need healing etc cuz since the class is a joke you die anyway. and tbh, it works on paper, but in random bgs ppl can have their cd everytime its not like arena where you can plan things.

so yeah, unless you have friends to play with that are good at the game, warlock is currently unplayable in pvp from a casual pov, for a player that wants to have fun and get better its very frustrating.

and on a sidenote, rogues are just busted right now, so is warrior, but warrior is your biggest nightmare due to enrage to trinket the fear for free, low cd reflect, mobility etc. you stand no chance.

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I don’t fake cast on my ele and boomkin, coz I always have smthg to cast beeing locked out (necroshield, bear form, lightning stun, etc etc). also I can literally blow up a target without a single cast, all instants and procs - hi to wowDevs who threw warlock class into a garbage can.

give it up and re-roll another caster. current warlock is in 2004, and the game is in 2021. hard casts, zero utility, zero mobility, mythical tankiness, most retarded covenants and gameplay design, no legion artifact abilities remained, etc.
firemage - tons of cc on different school of magic, insta burst every minute or so = during the combust window throws instant chaosbolts, triple shield, ice block, cheatdeath, can dispel curses, spellsteal, altertime, blinks
boomkin - tons of selfheal, immortal in bearform, frenzy conduit = auto frenzy every minute when HP drops below 40%, immune to slows and roots and polymorphs, 30 sec undisspellable incarnation burst window, cheat Convoke or instant burst every 1 minute if kyrian, can dispel curses, instant surges = instant chaosbolts
shadowpriest - dispersion every 1.5 min, vampiric embrace, PI, instant stun, silence, aoe fear, cheat mindgames = boosted chaosbolt, mass dispel, -15% inc dmg if got hit in melee, pvp fade, good self heal, cool team abilities - like hp swap etc.
ele sham - stormkeeper burst every 1 min undispellable, grounding totem, shortest kick in the game 12 sec, wields shield = 10% to block melee atacks, 1.5 min cd wall, earth elemental wall, earth elemental conduit = free 26% hp boost for 1 min, self heal, can dispel curses, free purge, skyfury totem, lasso, ghostwolf -20% wall and immune to slows, hex, necro ability+echo talent+mastery = interesting multicast design, increased crit multiplier.

and now warlock:
slow boring dummy

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Can you record some of your games and show us? I’m just really curious what’s going on there, why are you upset about it :thinking:

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I always try to escape 1 vs 2 melee. It’s pain. But isn’t it a pain for all other casters as well?

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In a 1v1 assuming a dual warlock actually does well into rogue , however that does require premeditated planning such as having succubus active to cc the opener and good positioning.

Aim and game for warlock 1v1 to rogue is to try extend the trades between his inevitable resets , rogue wins in short trades warlock in long ones.

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You see biggest cliff - jump down reset and play the game. That’s how you do it as warlock. :smiley:

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gates, at least 1 pillar, circle, in open field with no preliminary preparation a warlock has no chances

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I play destro. I try to bait them into interrupting my fire spell casting, so then I’m free to cast fear or chaos bolt.
Getting interrupted on chaos bolt is the thing I want to avoid the most because it locks me out of fire and shadow.
I try to save Unending Resolve until I’m in a stun and have no PvP trinket available.

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This is a matter of what you want to achieve. You can choose to play Destruction and wreck people when the focus is not you but have a miserable life when the focus is you or you can pick Demo and survive longer and even kill people in 1v1 stiuation.

From what I am seeing, this is bothering you alot. My suggestion; play Demo. Felguard stun, coil, soul link etc. are good tools to survive against others.

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Watch Chanimal, but not when malding :wink:

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