How to play WoW in a calm and relaxing way/environment without toxicity?

Good afternoon! I hope the day is going well for you. Bit of a long post, so I’ll put a tl;dr for your convenience.

TL;DR: Wanna get back in game, scared AF of people&my own lack of input speed. Want to relax and have fun while playing something I may enjoy, without worrying about somebody lashing out or being an active detriment for me for no reason.

I’ve had the itch of resubbing to WoW for a while now. But I have to admit one thing: My general experience with the game since taking it up in Warlords of Draenor, and playing on and off casually from then on, has been… Stressful.

Before anything, please don’t take this post/thread as me complaining about the game; I’m aware that it is a perfectly functional and enjoyable game for many, and I truly hope it remains so for them.

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Summary

Until now, everytime I’ve tried to get back into the game, I’ve been faced with really, REALLY bad interactions with people. To the point of not wanting to do things like low M+, or LFR, or even try and get into a Normal pick up group for the current raid tier.

And yet, that is the most effective way we can improve and learn, isn’t it.
I’d like it very much if I could prepare to do some instance, do my research, gather together a group or raid, and relax to a point, since all I want is to get a single piece of content done, without people being horrible people. I don’t speak skill-wise, but behaviour-wise.

In a nutshell; Trying to play on my own for group content is stressful, as other players simply don’t seem to want to cooperate.

The answer to this problem should be easy, right? Finding a nice guild/community to run these things with. So far I’ve tried this a few times already, and I haven’t had luck so far, as I’ve often ran into cliques and raiding only guilds under the guise of “friendly/social”.

I understand that the only 100% constant in all of these interactions is me. I do try my best to learn things and be as cooperative as I can, but I fail to understand if I’m still doing something wrong in all of these interactions, or if WoW’s social game just doesn’t match with my personality. Or maybe I’m simply not good enough to play the game at all;
I do tend to take things at my own pace, sometimes as slow as I can.
Maybe that’s could be a problem on my part in retail WoW? That there’s no way to play slow, or that I’ll probably struggle to keep up if an instance group or raid decides they want to go VERY fast.
I still don’t know what classes or specs would fit me best to play with, because even slow classes like Warlocks or Death Knights still seem very fast to me during gameplay.

Let me reiterate: All of the above has been my own perspective, which may or may not be biased, and all I’m doing is sharing it for context, to get as accurate counsel as possible.

What do you do when you want to have a relaxing time doing group content and your choice guild/communities aren’t or won’t be available? Do you set m+ groups with “chill” or similar on the title/notes and hope that people catch on? Or that doesn’t work as well anymore?
Should I take up either tanking or healing if I want to have more control over what kind of parties do I create? Should I just forget about m+/raids and just do delves if I can’t handle people?

I genuinelly want to like the game. But it feels like in order to play, I need to interact directly with horrible people that will sour the experience at every step.
I understand that every online environment will have bad apples, but everytime I’ve played WoW, it feels much more common.
Please confirm or deny this for me, or let me know what do you think, so I can either be on my way or roll a new character.

Considering you’ve read all this way, I appreciate you and the attention you’ve put on the post.
Please have/keep having a nice day.

You mentioned guilds but there are various communities out there who do things like raids and mythic plus if you were interested.

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It’s possible. It’s even more possible that you’re unlucky in finding people. Or, due to you feeling stressed out over this, you miss on possible neutral/positive experiences around you. I’ve been there. It’s been over 10 years and I still haven’t gone back to league of legends despite changing and people being OK in every other game I played. Yes, there were bad moments, but the normal/good ones were an incredibly higher %.

Personally, what i do is… delves, Visions(S2 exclusive), leveling, questing, fooling around in the world and helping random people. Though I’ve been leveling much less this expansion. I think that’s over for me :sweat_smile: I also really like creating transmog and doing things for my characters. Customising looks, making new builds, etc. Even professions can be fun.

You do have a little more choice, yes, but beyond a name(and admittedly I invite people based on a name, if I do pug, because if someone has an offensive name or a meme chances are they will not be fun people in my experience) and some data the game provides to you, you have no idea about their personality, which is what your problem with them is, unfortunately.
Also, honestly, you can/should try these roles because they’ll be a new way to experience the game. However, these roles do receive more negative (and positive) comments from people than damage dealers.

Sort of! But you’re on Argent Dawn, the server that I personally wish I was on but got too attached to my characters and don’t wanna make new ones.(And server transfers COST A LOT) There are some of the nicest players that you can meet in the game. Oh, also, speaking of nice players, there are bigger communities like Scared of Dungeons, No Pressure, Dungeon Dojo and others that are absolutely worth trying to play with. While I haven’t been in the latter 2 I can definitely tell you scared of dungeons would be an experience you would at least not hate based on what you’ve said so far.
(Oh, right, I probably should have scrolled because Puny shared these.)

Honestly I’d offer to play with you sometimes but I’m playing less and less nowadays. I’ll come play for a month, then get annoyed by a feature I can’t believe they’ve added. Then I’ll leave for 3 :grin:

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Oh, crab. I didn’t read everything properly it seems!

It’s possible that it does. I will target groups named like this if they’re there. At the same time ‘‘blasters’’, ‘‘quick’’ and so on are normally toxic and even more often slower than the fun parties. Go figure.

For me it has been…just experience. Any experience. Solo challenges and open pvp are surprisingly good at teaching you how to play your character. You get that down and you’ve won half the battle in dungeons.

I keep hearing this and it’s quite possible. Such labels for guilds and communities seem to be basically that? They try to recruit and many of them just don’t know how to treat the new person. Of course, at the same time, as the new person you’ll want to put in effort to be wanted there. Unfortunately it takes some work, yeah :sweat:

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Appreciate the listing for EU-centered discord communities!

I did try one of these briefly-- Chatting with them, they were comprehensive enough of my situation.
I joined one of their normal raids once as a death knight, and it was the most relaxing experience I remember doing raiding beyond LFR with.
M+ wise, maybe it was a small sample of attempts, but it didn’t feel like it was easy to sort a group together, ending up relying on LFG to get the rest of people. Didn’t feel all too comfortable, and I probably should’ve given it more attempts/more groups with more people.

Overall, while it was definitely better than partying with randoms, I still felt like a complete stranger.

It is a bit hard to remember good moments. I know there have been, but the bad moments far outnumber and outweight the former on my case. Almost nobody likes playing or staying in a mostly hostile environment, right?

I’ve lost count of how many hours I’ve spent fashion hunting + checking every sheath placement of weapons to decide what to wear-- Axes and polearms that are sheathed with their head pointing to the ground… Eugh :joy:

But these are good reminders of what to do when alone/waiting for a group. Thanks for the reminder.

I did start on spanish realms, and tried getting along with people, but culture and my own wants were far too removed for me and the population to coexist.
In AD, I have to admit that while toxicity had been less present, LFG foulness still seeped in, despite the realm being overall nice, since I’d be practically partying with a lot of people from outside AD.
There’s also those alliance that have PvP flag on in shared events, which as a Horde kind~ of complicates things for me, but I’m not gonna accuse anybody of doing that intentionally :rofl:

Despite being socially inept, I 100% agree. It takes a lot of energy to engage and chat to get the ball going, but unfortunately for me, that’s how it is.

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With SoD there was the chatter that was going most evenings, but I understand. I really really do, because that’s been an issue for me with lots of places and it could potentially be me that’s the problem. Because I kept feeling like an alien and I kept feeling like I was invisible. One-on-one? Yeah, no problem, felt like I was getting along with everyone. So figure out how you feel in such moments if you try again and see whether you like communities or maybe you’d prefer ones that are smaller. Or you just like having 2-3 people around instead of a full community. What I can suggest is test things.

Also, do not be afraid of trying to network - to add people. You see someone you’ve enjoyed playing with, someone who was positive in your group content, why not reach out and ask if they’d like to play with you? Bonus points if you actually interacted with them during those positive interactions. People seem to mostly be OK on their own and would only ever become friends with you if you were to reach out first. And if you did? Well, chances are they might actually start reaching out first too. It’s just that someone has to be the first penguin that initiates the whole relationship.

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Not too great at that, I’m afraid! But I think I understand.
The fear is still there, and it’ll probably be with me for a long time… I’ve played only with ConsolePort for 2 expansions, was thinking of giving keyboard a whirl if I did start, but God, I’m scared of screwing my hands or doing misinputs. Folk aren’t receptive when I’m constantly making mistakes, after all.

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You know how I mentioned solo challenges? Well, that’s where they come along. I know I don’t want to screw up around others and these are a godsent. You can slow down, read abilities, or go as quick as you want or just learn the basics. If you want to learn in a comfortable place this seems to be it. Delves especially take quite long at t8 and higher so you have time to practice your buttons.

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I honestly wasn’t aware that these were a current thing; I know Mage Tower was/maybe still is a thing, but do you think doing the solo challenges will prepare me for M+?

I could probably just fumble my way into victory and then M+ will be a completely different beast!

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They’ll help you learn your character. You’ll also potentially learn how to use defensive abilities.(and that’ll make you cooler than most people in M+ tbh :grin:)You’ll also see and learn mechanics because those things have some fun mechanics that are also present in the dungeons and raids in some way or another. Also it just builds some nice game sense. No, it’s not perfect but it’ll prepare you well, because you’ll have gotten more comfortable with the game. For things like delves and visions you can also group up and technically mimic the dungeon experience but with differently acting mechanics. I would sometimes put a group up saying something like ''Tier… N delve duo for fun" and it can be enjoyable to just run one as 2 people. You also get used to looking after others if you have support abilities.

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