my dude is half a bar from 120 and i’m not sure where to go with him from here. what’s the best spec for 120, assuming i want to do some mythics and maybe a bit of pvp?
i like disc. it’s frantic and gets cagey at times, especially with the new breed of hyperactive tanks that like to pull 43 packs at once but can’t hold aggro or use their defensives properly, but i’ve never really felt overwhelmed. in the world however it takes 2 days to kill a skeleton. also everyone says it’s getting nerfed hard in 8.1, which seems like it’ll suck.
shadow is poo. i got killed by a yeti in drustvar while trying to do quests as shadow. i can’t pretend i know how to play shadow, but i don’t really know how to play my WW either and he never died once while questing. he also does 9k DPS despite having ilvl 303 whereas my shadow kit is 290-odd and i can barely pull 2.5k in dungeons
i have never tried holy because it has historically been a spec for roleplayers and people who don’t know any better. i respecced to it earlier and none of my buttons were bound and the talents were all still 1111111 as per the 110 boost. is holy a good idea?
I don’t PvP but from what i gather for PvP Disc is your best option - damage, healing and crazy survivability
For Mythic/Mythic+: Disc or Holy - same reasons as above. Although in mythic+ the affixes will have an impact on spec choice. Disc can be more viable due to the damage, shields and damage reduction utility. Holy has huge heals but not much else.
Raiding: Again Disc/Holy can work - down to personal choice…although the raidwide cooldowns that Holy brings (divine hymn+HW:Salvation) are incredibly strong and can turn some fights.
Shadow as a whole isn’t in a great spot. I haven’t played Shadow since legion, but if the current state is anything similar then it is highly gear/stat dependent and struggles to perform. but I might be wrong don’t quote me on that
Never heard this before. I’ve been Holy main since MoP xd
it was a meme in WoD iirc because holy wasn’t as good as disc (unkillable) or shadow (face melty)
shadow definitely seems to be in a bad spot. i can’t judge because i havent had time to play around with it at max level but i have only ever died to quest mobs in BfA once and it was while trying to shadow. the damage is pathetic and the defensive abilities aren’t good enough
It’ll probably still be fine in PvP but it’ll hurt in mythic+.
Disc has no effective mass aoe heal, or even large solo heal. This can make some mechanics, especially some of the affixes, near impossible to deal with at high keystones.
So when the affixes are favourable, disc is great. When they aren’t, disc isn’t really even viable at high levels.
Shadow “works” in pve after a sizable flat buff. But it’s boring and middle of the pack at best. All the disadvantages of legion shadow and none of the advantages. For low level keys DA and SC make it passingly viable though by no means desirable. For solo content, unless you’re in 360+ gear, stick to disc.
Shadow PvP is to take EoI, never go VF and basically become and annoying if ineffectual caster tank. It’s really dull.
After 8.1, the jury is very much out on whether or not the changes, designed to make shadow less tanky and more dps-y, will make shadow a viable DPS again or just obliterate any vestige of PvP viability.
Holy is actually a decent healing spec for mythic content. It’ll perform well regardless of affixes.
Disc doesn’t work that well with pugs. Disc compliments the damage output of a very good group and covers the minimal damage input good players would take, while providing solid utility cooldowns.
Shadow in terms of DPS is fine. It’s utility where it lacks. You will be a great DPS turret for raids, but lackluster in M+ due to not providing enough tools.
Holy is still the definitive reactive healer, albeit getting closer to holy paladins by the day when you’re not using big cooldowns. We’re also lagging behind a little in M+, but that might change as more azerite traits are introduced which give us strong mini-cooldowns, like the incoming HW:Serenity trait coming next patch.
