Hello there folks let me get straight to the point, as most of you probably know already PvP tuning for anything under max level is in absolute shambles right now, several classes are one global away from oneshotting and some abillities do more than twice a persons HP in damage right now, looking at you rapid fire/mortal strike <-<
On top of that queue times are incredibly high 20min to 2h on average outside of prime time (some brackets don’t even pop at all)
THE SOLUTION Bring back Legion templates inside BGs for PvP under max level and merge the xp on/xp off brackets to circumvent the rising damage increases coming every few weeks and low participation numbers!
PVP for lower Level brackets in Legion was awesome where a singular abillity didn’t make you go 100 to 0 and gear didn’t really matter at all as you would spawn into a BG with a fair amount of HP and stats by default, only your ilvl increasing it by a small amount (5% more stats if bis)
To put that into perspective in LEGION you had 8.5k hp as a naked character in the lvl 20-29 bracket and an aimshot from a BIS Twink Hunter did about 1.4k damage on you, now under the same circumstances you have about 3k HP and an aimshot from a BIS hunter hits you for about 10k.
LEGION SCALING would single handedly fix low level pvp in retail
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F2P scum deserves their own bracket.
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Twinks with proper low level PvP balance (Legion Templates e.g.) would be benefitial for the overall health of the game as removing them made it nearly impossible to join a leveler BG across all brackets
Scaling would also massively help max level PvP. The amount of people that I see join a battleground and they’re still in levelling gear is absolutely astounding.
I wonder how many people have immediately given up on PvP because they felt they had zero chance.
Random BG is meant for gaining honor and getting honor gear. Makes sense people without honor gear end up in those. Only solution Blizzard can do is give every max level a full set of pvp gear with a bit lower ilvl then the ones you can buy. Yes, i know about the ones on the AH but you’re not gonna spend 100k just to replace it after an evening.
Wait people actually participate in this?
There is zero excuse for people to enter a battleground without a single piece of PvP gear. Zero.
I saw somebody with 2m HP on the enemy team yesterday. That is straight up griefing at that point.
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Thats not really possible, isnt gear scaled up to 599 in any bg with any gear you have?
I swear I joined bgs with random green leveling gear from quests, and when I checked character screen inside the bg, it always showed (599) on every item, like the pvp scaling thing shows on pvp gear. I think that gives you like 7 mil hp baseline even if green geared.
I literally played against a person with 2m HP, and you’re telling me it’s not possible?
Why would I say someone I played AGAINST was 2m HP if they weren’t? Use your brain please.
That’s the point, they’re NOT geared.
Luckily I hadn’t reset my details, here you go:
https ://imgur.com/a/PzW44aq
Tell me more about how it’s not possible, please.
I’ve said this many times, implement a levelling system for PvP players from 10 to 80 with scaled PvP gear which the ilvl gradually increases as you move each bracket (10-19, 20-29, 30-39 to the end-game level 80), provide trinkets that increases stam & primary stats from the 2 piece set and utilize this system exclusively for PvP enjoyers so they can acquire honor gear that scales up to 80 (is not heirlooms) therefore preparing them from the get go a balanced headstart in the endgame PvP journey.
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yep twink pvp is completely dead rip
Do you retract your argument yet?
https ://imgur.com/a/2uFSt5h
Dude, I don’t care about your screenshots, I literally explained to you how the game factually works, and you still find some strawman argument.
Yes, the guy probably didn’t have item pieces equiped, he was trolling/afking or something. That doesn’t make the gearing system bad, gearing could be templates and he still could have zero gear equipped. You think game design can stop random people from doing random people stuff?
‘I don’t care about your proof that I’m wrong’ - nice one pal!
No you didn’t, because it doesn’t factually work like that. You are factually wrong and have zero idea what you’re talking about. How does gear get scaled ‘no matter what gear you are in’ (your words) and you still have 2-4m HP when everyone else is running around with 10-12m?
You also said it’s ‘not really possible’ (your words) to have 2m HP in a BG. Factually wrong, because it IS possible. Show a modicum of intelligence and retract your factually incorrect statement.
The irony of calling me a strawman and then saying this. I didn’t say the gearing system was bad, but entry level PvP (Battlegrounds and Skirmishes) could easily be improved to increase (new) player participation and enjoyment. How many people do you think trying pvp out for the first time are sticking it out when they’ve spent more time in the graveyard than doing anything?
He did have all his gear equipped, but his gear was heirlooms and quest gear. Why did he still have 2m HP if his gear scales no matter what he’s wearing? 
Game design can 100% be improved. They can take action against saboteurs, they can increase the item level required to join BGs and actually encourage this peanut brain player base to spend 30 seconds researching how to help themselves, the game design can be improved in many ways lol.
Edit:
https ://imgur.com/a/KHNHYiE
Just joined a BG on a fresh character, 2m HP, and I’m not seeing my gear, what was it you said…
So do you redact your comment:
?
