How undead monk possible?

Chinese undead:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangshi

Undead monks should be allowed, but only as long as they hop everywhere :slight_smile:

oh i know of them, but you are talking about chinese zombie, not chinese monk.
even the forsaken arent zombie. zombies are walking dead controlled by a magical force. forsaken are undead with free will.

Didnt sylvanas say that the forsaken cling to the last bit of life within them in her Loyalist ending? So there is some life in them.

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Shocked you are asking about Undead, and not Void elf because of the fact that Ligntforged Draenei cant pick Monk.

every living being has chi in it. including nature.

Lightforged Draenei no monks tho , but elves dabbling with void magic do, personally I want ALL races to get monk

You could do that in Abe.

Fart was pretty overpowered.

What if the undead was harnessing the Sha instead of the chi? it would make more sense and also would let Undeads have a dark variant on the already created monk abilities.

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Chi is your ability to control life-force energy itself, mana and energy are just game-mechanics to impose limits.

Technically, lorewise even a Death-knight could become a priest/paladin, but mechanically, no.

Technically, any class can become… mostly anything, I think the only exceptions are Demonhunters, because having a demon in your soul makes you kind of unstable, even the most stable demonhunters are… unique.

Most of the races that can play monk should not be able to. I think blizz just realized no one played monk so they added them to every race to try and inflate the numbers. personally i think it should have been panda-only but that would have killed the class o i get why they didnt do that. but they should have.

I wouldn’t overthink it, to be honest, a lot of the bars don’t make sense if you think about it. ā€œI am an Expert sniper, to take the perfect shot at this foe I can wait, aim, regulate my breathing, or, nah, to hells with it, I’ll do a couple of plinky plinky shots at the enemy and then do an Aimed Shotā€.

Logically an Undead would actually make a good Monk, as they still have life energy, but their passions are dulled, they would find inner serenity easier due to the lack of any fleshly concerns I suppose.

Chi is harnessing of one’s own Spirit, very similar to Shamanism except Shaman call on the Spirit of the natural world rather than their own.

Undead do still possess this Spirit but it is very dim, a flicker that is what allows them to retain awareness. In this way they can still be monks but I imagine the mastering Chi part comes as a challenge due to them lacking vibrancy of it. However their emotions and other feelings are also dulled so this may well balance out to allow them better focus on it.

Undead monk makes more sense than undead holy priest for sure

Monk philosophy is like anyone can be monk so undead can be monk too.

I also wonder how undead can weild light?

That sounds like the worst druid form ever.

Undead can wield light canonically. Where light is used as magic, like a priest, it is drawn from elsewhere (the light proper presumably) and requires only the individual has a firm belief in their own ability and the rightness of their cause to manifest. The issue here is undead are frequently plagued by either deadened emotions or turmoil, which makes this mindset difficult for them, so not a lot do wield it.

When light physically contacts them, it is painful for sure, but this doesn’t make it impossible to use. This merely doubles down in why it’s tricky for them to do it as the mindset required is hard for them, and then pain may result from its use.

Paladins are a different story altogether. Paladins do not merely invoke the light, they are infused with it and so act as conduits for it, they call the light to manifest through them. This is why undead paladins are not a thing despite many of them keeping old faith, as they cannot by conventional means be infused with light as it either destroys them or causes them to pass on. Calia Menethil is one example of an undead infused with Light but the means to do it were very unconventional and involved direct intervention of a Naaru. Sir Zellek (sp?) In Naxx may be another example but I suspect more unconventional means are at play given he spends the fight expressing regret for what he’s doing so it makes me think his soul and body were not United formerly and his body was essentially a dead puppet, and he was using light magic more like a priest does (as a tool) rather than a paladin (through their own will) because his spirit clearly isn’t the one willing his own actions.

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chi is life-force. but monks use THEIR OWN chi. stealing the essence of another, thats warlock territory. that is why not everyone can be a monk.

energy just simply, energy. everyone get tired.
mana ? i cant explain it.

How do you explain my Balance Worgen Druid then? Slander I say.

Also Vulpera are basically furry Goblins and they can be monks. No reason Goblins shouldn’t.

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