Unless starfire is instacast, I doubt its the thing that rng stuns me
Thats why balance will be and allways was off no mater in SoD or vanilla. in low levels.
Thats why in 1v1 direct combat hunters deal insane damage to like warriors in melee as melee hunter for example. Both wear mostly leather currently, which will change on lvl 60 for example. PvP Warriors with full Plate. Same with Shamans wearing mail later on and also hunters.
When boomkins wear full leather gear with moonkin armor melee dmg on them will change (except for mutilate rogues hehe)
Its a question of how long we deal with that low level pvp was like that and how much they will change it that ends up having an impact on actual level 60.
Well, Classes with self sustain as like any hybrids that deal good DoT dmg shouldnt also have a 1 shot instant nuke spell as starsurge/swd.
The point of their design is, atleast in terms of SP to melt people with DoTs + mindflay while beeing quite durable with high armor and shield+selfheal.
When they start to do the same on demand burst dmg as like Hunter/Warrior/Rogues that dont have any selfsustain with heals etc and their timer isnt the manabar more like the hp bar. It starts to get unbalanced.
Balance druid also have much heals and utility, they just arent as tanky right now vs melees as they will be later on with full leather and the armor value with moonkin form. Having 2 dots + insect swarm and a functional spellpushback protection with the starfire starsurge interaction, they will do completly fine on max level. If they need some help/buff it should be in the aspect of what the classes strenght should be, which in classic isnt oneshottingwith instant casts 
Same with SP, if it needs help its not giving them a instant oneshot rather then fixing spellpushback talent for runes^^
yup boomy is unplayable in pve/pvp now , P3 waiting room i guess.
Skill issue
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100% skill issue lmao boomkin is still insane in group pvp
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Ya, so last night I got jumped by a shadow priest. Put his dots on me, then hit silence and nuked until silence ended. At that point I was at 50% health and got nuked to 0 by swd. What’s the counter play to that?
It doesn’t add up to claim that the playstyle was intended as rotting people down. That was when paladins only had judgment and autoattacks. When warriors needed time to build their rage, and rogues needed time to generate combo points. When warlocks didn’t have chaos bolt and tons of +dmg modifiers. Mages didn’t have living bomb and healing. The list goes on. All classes are buffed to the point where they can do pretty big burst in a very short time.
What about shamans? They are hybrids with self sustain. Yet they can LITERALLY 1shot you.
Also, I have something to add regarding the druid leveling experience now. As I said earlier, you don’t get starfire until level 20, so the buff starsurge gives does nothing for you until then. And you can’t start putting points into Vengeance (increases crit chance of starfire, moonfire, wrath and starsurge by 20% per point up to 100%) until level 25. And you have to chose between that and putting 5 points into imrpoved starfire to get it down from a 3,5 sec cast. You need both those talents for the damage to start becoming decent, which happens around level 30.
And then you need eclipse rune to get the buff to reduce starfire from a 3 sec cast to a 2 sec cast.
So until level 30 balance druid feels pretty much like the clunky old classic druid. Meanwhile other classes pop off way sooner.
Also, I see people calling it a skill issue, which is beside the point. The point is that they changed the way the class plays. It was not just a nerf. It was a rework. And it feels really bad when a class that is fun to play is reworked into something that changes the playstyle to the point where someone who invested a lot of time and effort into it no longer likes to play it.
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“Invested a lot of effort”
Pressing starsurge every 6 seconds took effort?
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It does stun it’s effected by the same talents as starfire
Just because one class is broken it doesn’t mean you should have your I-WIN button back. They should tune down shadow priests because they did go overboard with how much they improved the spec.
AH yes the clunky old classic druid with sunfire and no mana on wrath. Yes, not having starsurge do as much damage it means you will have to level a bit slower as your spec will come around later, just like so many other classes. If you have issues leveling a druid now even with the nerf I don’t know what to say to you…
Those shamans that “one shot” you also have to get in combat and in danger to do that kind of damage, they can’t disengage easily at that point or heal on the move or instantly shift in a form that removes roots/snares and run away while still doing damage.
While lava burst could see some tuning to it all casters atm in pvp have certain problematic spells.
A spell that is 30yard range, interruptable, 2 sec cast and requires a 20yard range dispellable debuff with a cooldown to hit hard is no way in hell comparable to what starsurge was. And if you can’t see the difference then you’ve got a problem that no one will be able to help you with.
What was fun? Pressing one button with little risk to yourself, no strategy, no thinking required?
If that was fun to you then it says a lot about you and what you want/expect from a class. You liked that it was broken strong, pressing one button to win the day… such fun and rewarding game play.
You instantly notice whenever someone is predetermined to disagree lol. I don’t know what kind of dysfunctional pleasure you get from sh!tting on people who are trying to give feedback after their class got changed to something else, but tbh that says a lot about what kind of human being you are. Upside is you likely suffer more from being you than I do from having to deal with you.
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What feedback are you giving? That your spec is “gutted”? Except it is not.
I’m sorry you are looking for a pity party and are so in need of a hug, now that you have been nerfed, but your whole point is dead wrong, and I take no pleasure, I’m just telling you that you are wrong. You are just angry you don’t get to feel superior to others anymore with one press of a button.
Good druid players have already adapted and are playing this “gutted” spec just fine, terrible and entitled players are seething and raging that their one-button-drool-at-the-corner-of-the-mouth spell has been fixed.
And all the personal attacks… I’ll “suffer” gladly knowing I’m not some p.o.s. whining about the starsurge nerf → lowest of the low.
That is simply because people are not used to see balance druids as a strong class. It was a meme spec that everyone made fun of for 20 years, so that is what people expect right now. Warriors were easily doubling any other dps in BFD and breaking damage meters, did anyone complain?
People whined about balance druids and it was the fastest mega nerf i’ve ever seen in wow happening, literally got nerfed in 2 days after the patch. Because they are not funny floppy chickens that people always make fun of.
Big stupid chicken that do no damage, this is what wow community wants to see.
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Wrong, everyone complained, these forums are proof.
Wrong, took them almost whole of P1(if you consider it wasn’t broken to begin with) to do anything about it, left it broken for people that dislike pressing more than 3 buttons to enjoy and get used to. So now we have this tidal wave of tears from the clueless.
Is that from one of those scientific papers that you keep writing? Try again.
Nope, they clearly didn’t.
Nope, balance druids were not a big deal in P1. Hunters were the center of attention.
You still jealous, but that doesn’t change the fact that I write a scientific paper easier than you can write your name on a high school exam.
See, you are just a stupid c that I really don’t care about.
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Sure mister scientist, so smart that you can’t figure out how in the world a spell like Starsurge might be busted.
At this point I think you write those scientific papers on toilet paper in brown. Take a hike your highness.
I don’t take orders from a lowlife entity. You can try to write a petition to fema they will probably help.
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SP → selfsustain, CC, quite tanky agaisnt physical but no burst
Ele shaman → self sustain, quite tanky into melee due to mail, kicks and burst but no cc and mostly hard casted damage
thats what i meant, they shouldnt have given a class that purposely lacked burst in pvp given exactly that. That is the whole point about my post, they didnt respect what the specc us about.
Warriors also could do on demand high dmg + ms on classic aswell
Dagger Rogue opener was allways high burst, cheapshot then backstab could 2 shot many cloth users and leather already.
Destro could already oneshot players with soulfire cast with succubus. Its just that they have to cast and they can do it with another spell rn instead of soulfire at level 60.
The current pvp is low level, just that back then only like rogues had like oneshot cause they had an ability that now in SoD many classes have. on lvl 19 rogues had ambush and dominated low lvl pvp. Aslong as not all classes wear special lvl 60 gear with propper armor type for their class (mail, plate, leather) lack the pvp items from the pvp ranking with great stamina or Tiersets it will be a squishy killfiesta^^
ppl take the current level 25/40/50 content way too serious.
The current PvP is the biggest sh show I’ve ever seen in wow. It is a oneshot fiesta.
I think Blizzard really dropped the ball in p2 as all classes are either godmode oneshotters or free kills.
I know, right? You are so much more superior, clearly 
Do you use colored crayons when you write scientific papers? You have to be so self absorbed and self important to justify your arguments with a ridiculous thing like that, it is off the charts. I don’t use the word cringe often but you sir… are another thing entirely.