This is a bad myth honestly. It may account for like 25% damage or so over a fight - OVER A FIGHT -, but not more. Hunter-pet damage is vastly overrated. We killed some gladiator streamer, as survival my pet did 15% total damage. On his stream he shouted “PET DID 80% OF HEALTH IN LIKE 5 SECONDS WTF?”
No. No it didnt.
I am not saying about survival, this different type of class, not busted at all, but still very good in some hands. Their pets are fine.
Vs BMs I usually have 50%-60% of total dmg in details from hunter, rest is coming from pets. But again, that’s only my exp, and only at 1.8k-1.9k range.
Maybe I am just simple very muc countered by BMs right now (as a Kyrian with HPal instead other healer), just wanted to share my exp here. And it’s not like I am loosing every game vs BMs, it’s more that I don’t see any chance to improve vs them. But If DH/WW/asssa doesn’t have bigger problems with BMs then I think it’s fine, most top classes counters each other.
I would say only DK could get some more love, as they are the most rare class I ever met (in 2s).
A DK gripped me 3 times in 10 seconds today in arena. I don’t understand how that’s possible?
Surely give MM two disengages like mage has blink to at least have a chance.
The few times i play BM the damage is about 25% also, but thats because i maintain full uptime with barbed shot, kill shots and cobra shots (hence i rarely kill command). So an explaination about other hunters pet doing 50-60% dmg could also be explained by them simply sucking at doing proper damage 
But - honestly your healer makes a huge difference as a warrior and especially against elusive class like hunter. With a bad healer, it doesnt matter how good the warrior is. With a good healer, the warrior can actuallt be sub-par and we can still lose. So i wouldnt only look at what you can do better but also what your paladin can do better and exactly how you guys are setting up your go’s.
As in nature the only threat to a Hunter is a younger stronger Hunter.
Yeah, just checking some logs from games last night vs BM hunters (which I lost) the pet actually only did 10-25% of the damage (claw + auto attacks + stomp). The hunter did not cast Kill Command even once.
Main damage comes from Cobra Shot + Kill Shot + Barbed Shot.
You are definitely not favoured vs hunters as kyrian warr+hpala. If you were rdruid+venthyr warr you’d prob “counter” them, unless its a rdruid+hunter (counters everything). Warrior vs hunter in 2v2 solely depends on who has the rdruid, and if both have rdruid its probably slightly in favour of the hunter team. Rsham+warr vs priest+hunter I think is fairly even, as an example.
There is a fortunate misunderstanding circulating in the hunter arena community atm where they think cobra shot is higher value than kill command, due to the recent cobra shot buff and reversal of kill command buff. However kill command is still worth using over cobra shot due to animal companion talent (your 2nd pet will do kill command as well). The combined dmg of kill command is slightly higher than that of cobra shot, and also has a lower focus cost. So unless Im missing something, most hunters are actually doing it wrong atm 
Its not in PvP if you are versa/haste which you should be and geared accordingly. Cobra shot is higher damage than KC from Animal companion. And focus cost is barely an issue anymore. And you dont have to worry about your sub-pet being rooted or cced which halves your KC-damage.
If you are more mastery though, KC will do higher damage than CS. But hopefully you arnt.
Its not. My hunter is full haste vers and kill command always does slightly higher dmg.
Not mine at pvpilvl 258 at least.
Hmm… that’s a bit odd that the two of you are seeing different results. Is there a chance one of the abilities has weaker weapon/versa scaling than the other?
Demon hunter and a rly good ret pala
Im guessing i have better gear or more agility. Cobra shot has higher scaling of attack power so guessing when you reach a certain point of attack power your cobra shot will start doing more damage. This is ofc pvp we are talking about since KC is weaker there.
And just to be very clear: Animal companion is nerfed in pvp, meaning kill command damage is lowered when using two pets. Its still higher than using one, but its not 2 x kill command values.
I doubt that has much impact here. Ive been looking at a lot of games from both my own hunter and a hunter teammate, and we both get the same results: kill command combined dmg being equal or higher than cobra shot. We both have close to full gear and 0 mastery pieces. Obviously there’s many dmg modifiers and its hard to fully rely on data from actual games, but the results seem so consistent over so many games that Im not buying the cobra only yet 
either fix or nerf hunter and warrior or just give us charr swap cuz its not fair at all.I feel so at disatvange rn
Leaving cause they can miss all teams and still win
not exactly.
Especially in the lower ladder the games are not because of comps. Do others have advantages, sure but they make a lot of mistakes which can turn the game.
I had games a warrior charged me and i died in 2 globals. Wasn’t expecting it.
mobility is not greater than melees. You got 1 disengage and a freedom. What you probably mean is they can do dmg while jumping around. Well so can melees and they also got basically 100% uptime.
turtle is a pretty trash skill. Only usable if you got trinket ready and you can still die to precasts, dots and cannot attack either.
Pets are a glorified dot. They are strong in 2s but in bgs or 3s they flop so hard and the hunter alone hardly can keep them alive if focused
magic dispel = purge on 8s cd. Basically winning a lottery purging anything useful
BW is not really a burst. It amplifies all your dmg but it doesn’t make your skills suddenly very dangerous. It increases your DPS (which is obviously high)
FD leggo is busted, yes. Although without it hunters would be erased from arena because they flop to everything instantly.
can say the same about every other class.
BM hunter is very strong with dwayne and Rdruid. They carry the game not the hunter. Hunter is just pveing everything down and land maybe a trap here and there.
Pveing will not win you the game, otherwise you wouldn’t see any bm hunters at trash rating.
healers win the games in this comp.
warrior scales exceptionally well with gear it seems.
You can watch Mud or magnusz. They have basically 0 issues with BM hunters on high rating (r1s). Kyrian is not great into bm hunters, so you can tunnel the healer, the hunter has no tools to stop you. If you run into rdruid bm hunter as kyrian warrior you better alt f4 because rdruid is busted.
36k crits with avatar and necrolord banner. 28k crits with kyrian spear.
It is probably a gear thing that you cannot see these numbers.
intervening or spell reflecting the trap with mishapen is more important. You cannot prevent cyclone. But trap is on 30s cd.
pets without the hunter doe maybe 10% of the dmg.
You need to buff the pets with frenzy, kill command and stomp to even reach like 30-40% dmg.
I switched bm to test it, 30% my dmg comes from cobra shot and 30% dmg comes from kill shot. Then comes barbed shot and some rng dmg stuff (flayed shot dot, barbed shot dot etc.)
here is certainly your weakness.
HP is just trash. BM hunter won’t kill you with dmg, they probably kill you because your healer is OOM
Rudar u can miss all traps and win even mm and sv are busted btw if u didnt Figured it out but i cannot take u srs anyway kid
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