Hunter DPS is a disaster

if you want to do only hc whatever spec you play does not matter, if you want to do 15s your spec as well does not matter its all doable, but you probably will be declined by many groups or even kicked because you dont play meta, thank blizzard there

i read this topic and see really bad arguments - oh my guild mate 200 ilvl playing bm and doing really well, how this change the fact that bm is bottom dps right now in the game?

awww its an easy spec to play they should do no damage at all! a pure dps spec doing no dmg, a spec should not be punished for that, do people think that playing an X spec in this game earns them a phd? or do people think that after 15 years of the game there are still hard specs to play, just put some effort

soulforge embers is a terrible lego, after 9.05 and rylaks buff people stopped using it, even on higher competitive level people stopped using sfe

in conclusion the comments here written by casual players who are out of touch with mythic raiding or even lil higher m+ level of keys

BM scales heavily with secondary stats yes.

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Sounds perfect to me :wink:

It did in BFA but they changed how 2ndary stats affect things so i don’t think we know how its going to pan out.

I agree with what you’re saying. Cant honestly think of one single spec that is ‘hard’ to play. Hard to master, sure some can be more intricate. But to play? Nah every spec is relatively simple.

So looking at the DPS Analysis list. All 3 hunter specs are in the bottom 5 DPS’s in Castle Nathria.

WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING HUNTER THEN?!?!?!?!?!

I mean, quit moaning about it on the forums, go roll a Boomie, Afflic Lock, Shadow Priest, Ele Shaman or Fire Mage. Quickly.

Just stop moaning about it, and go play one of the good class/spec combinations.

edit, yes and for clarification, I dropped Wind Walker Monk and have levelled a Ele Shaman. And earlier in the year I respected from Frost Mage to Fire Mage (including the covenant switch). So I know the pain involved.

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if you are like me casual non raiding and more focus on outdoor content then it dos not matter but if you are like you a high end player then hunter is not the class you want to play now.

Hunters seem to have a lower variance than other classes. It doesn’t matter how much garbage you throw at them, they somehow keep doing roughly the same amount of damage.

Other classes lose damage when they have to do mechanics.

They get compensated for that with higher damage when they don’t have to deal with their mechanics.

This results in Hunters setting pretty much no DPS records, but they’re still a rock solid addition to a raid team.

a hybrid class should never be top at best somewhere in the middle.

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You need to score 60 first

Im sure you do

and well, any class that has 3 dps specs would, and should throw a tantrum if blizzard decides to make all 3 specs unviable or terrible, which is understandable.

The people complaining that BM hunters shouldn’t be above bottom amuse me because by that logic ferals should basically always be top due to the requirements to do their DPS, and DHs actually Should be below BM hunters or 2nd to last and Demo locks should be 3rd? But literally all hunter specs are trash and have felt trash for a while to me at least.

Also MM has to stand still more than fire mages that’s for sure but you still see MM doing very poorly in raids atm.

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Because the way gearing works to reroll now it would take forever to gear up since most upgrades comes from vault wich is 1 weekly piece. Then soul ash farm then conduit farm wich you can only upgrade above 200 with styga from Maw and is random wich conduit it upgrades. Also i don;t like fotm rerolling.

Also this nonsense with oh your class is easier or hybrid so you shouldn’t be above average in dps is most silliest argument i have seen.

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Try to play a frostmage at site,then come back to say that again lol

What I find super funny about this Hunter DPS is I had absolutely no problems getting invited to groups pre-9.0.5. Yet even though MY hunter got buffed in 9.0.5 (I play Kyrian with Surging Shots), now nobody wants to invite me :clown_face:

But yes, even though NF Fire Mage was better than NF MM Hunter in every single area of content (raid, M+ and PvP), it is NF Hunter that got nerfed. Blizzard’s bias is really showing this expansion.

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mm hunter got bug fixed, it means mm performance for 3 months was based on a bug, what that tells you about blizzard?

fire mage being top spec end of bfa, fire mage remaining top spec in sl, buffing fire mage what that tells you about blizzard

bm getting kicked out of groups since sl started dont remember you objecting back then

I won’t deny that you’re right about that bit. I’m currently going through that struggle on my Ele Shaman
 but you’ll make progress if you stick with it.

lol hunter was s tier number 1 dps in wf race that you need to stack at least 4-5 hunter in one raid. they didnt get 1 nerf what changed ?

This is why you don’t just go for the FOTM, The word “Flavor of the month” is exactly what it sounds like,

The thing that is on top 1 month can be at the bottom the next month.

In the long run, just play what you enjoy and not what parses the best at any given moment, as you will need to switch class A LOT if you want to only play FOTM

They started to be broken from BFA S4 therefore is FOTY not month, year.
But we have to make it an issue if hunters are not outdpsing everybody with their 3 keys.

Imagine a nerf to mages bringing them down, they would storm the forums and maybe blizzards headquarters. Thats why they are letting them lead the game in all aspects.