The class overall lacks mobility(which is ironic,we used to be the most mobile class in the game).
Survibilty is an all time low.
Kitting is imposible.
MM require in the most fast pace season to stand still for 2.5 second in order to do damage(in the era where every melee and their mother have 2-3 gap closer).I repeat,you have to stand still to do damage
BM lacks burst,it take you 1 year and a half to bring down a warlock with their huge hp
Survival is a “melee spec” where you get melted in 3-4 seconds if you act as a melee.You are supposed to kite with a spear and throw bombs for minimal damage,because if you try to use moongose bite(the biggest damaging spell in your arsenal,you get deleted by melee).
And now imagine someone is getting paid big money to create this mess of a class.
Marksmanship need the HUGE buff to survival, it is ridiculose, how is any player supposed to enjoy Marksmanship against a fury warrior, they cannot even play.
they have 2 charges on 17 sec cd(with pvp talent adding root) and a 30 sec heroic leap with a speed buff.You have to be pretty bad to allow a mm hunter to kite you
I would like to see great Marksman against average Fury, I think the Fury will win. MM will be running away and doing everything they can not to die and not even damage the fury because they have no time for it.
I dont think Hunter is weak, I think melees are overtuned across the board, with Fury wars, Rogues and in lot of situations DH being absurdly over the top.
Was in arena yesterday as a hunter against a rogue and a warlock used their dots and poisons on me, I used both Aspect of the turtle and Exhileration at 50% hp and got behind a wall, I died… the unballance in retail wow is just sad
Against 2 melee i play with tenacity pet for the 20% health CD, and battlemaster, always. When you use them both, you get like 600k hp. Then exhil heals you to full even if at 10%.
Second go, I use Roar of sacrifice + 40% wall.
Third go, I use turtle.
After that, unless the healer cocoons or bubbles you - dead
You mean, like almost every other class have but hunters don’t?
Also, please understand that BGs are NOT to be what you balance classses around.
In Rated BGs, hunters are 12th place (2nd worst performing) class.
Marksman is 13th out of 14 visible top performing DPS specs in Rated BGs…
The difference is that in Rated BGs, people have much higher awareness and counter/react to the double tap hunter burst. In BGs, people can have rly bad gear and get one shotted and also there’s little if no coordination or overall awareness - which results in a lot of people just dying to a Marksman who can attack unchallenged far in the back.
4 hunters? Well first of all, I would be surprised to see any Hunter in BG And yeah, if their team is good, they will be on top, because if they dont die they do their dmg…
Ohh and you talking about insane burst…Insane burst was at the end of SL, now it is what it was before SL, when DT was still available…
Pretty much unplayable…
Just got flamed at because i couldnt kite DH, warr and feral in a shuffle just now… I tried everything but they kept being on my face. No way in hell to get away… Leaps, charge, dash everywhere… What am i suppose to do? What really is a hunters role in arena? And now that they are removing DT, are we then just have to stand there and hardcast aimshot while having melees that we cannot get away from on our faces?
Well first of all, I would be surprised to see any Hunter in BG 