Just absolutely mental damage. How can a serpent hit for 400? It’s pathetic. The melee damage is way too high, the spell coefficients are way, way too high, and the armor, movement speed and HP are way, way too high.
hunter pets are harder to kill than 7/7 BFD raid bosses. Legitimately, the hunter pet hits harder than them all. This is what happens when you don’t have testing before you release something…
The other day levelling an alt, outside of Lakeshire was a single hunter with a Wind Serpent (level 25 and well geared), his pet on aggressive and the hunter was just sitting ontop of a cliff not even hitting people, just letting the pet clean up level 18-24’s in pvp, some level 25s, too. It’s way overtuned.
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Just you wait, you haven’t seen their final form yet.
If Blizzard does not reduce pet scaling by at least 50%, I can only imagine the memes there will be next phase when Bestial Wrath is available.
IMO - Blizzard needs to do the following when Phase 2 launches:
- Reduce pet scaling by 50%
- Reduce all Beast Mastery rune effects by 50%
- Increase non-Beast related runes by some amount to compensate
Otherwise what you see now will be like nothing compared to the memes there will be once Hunters will get 31 points in their BM tree.
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Even if the hunter was an exact copy of what he is on vanilla/Classic, so without the runes and minor changes to SoD you would still complain about it.
Almost all of the classes have become interesting and fun since SoD, even really overpowered once stuffed and well equipped, some are just missing a few tools which will arrive in phase 2 but the hunter has none of that and despite everything you manage to cry like the last of the little girls on the slightest trick that gives the hunter an advantage.
Amazing.
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Hunter has none of what, pray tell.
Can you give actual response?
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went to kill an afk hunter on my freshly dinged 25 druid in the water !
guess what, pet won in 5 seconds.
the hunter pet is just retarded, not to mention hunter range…
any noob can just be a good hunter and kill anyone. funny company actiblizz, maybe they should release some more COD games.
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I have good news for you, it can’t.
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Ziqo a streamer is running a fulldecked lvl 19 hunter twink.
Yesterday he was in a duel with a FULLY twinked lvl 19 rogue. This is a fully twinked rogue in a real duel. Same faction.
Ziqo is not even BM specced but his pet (cat) actually beat a fully lvl 19 twinked Rogue (rogue even potted). It was a close fight but the pet won.
Now imagine that and know its now for real.
I’m rerolling hunter as we speak.
It’s going to be fun lvl40
You do know that you shouldnt face the pet but the hunter right? And why gut hunter again? When is it enough? Like 4 nerfs to hunter allready. So a fully gearee hunter with BM spec critted you for 400. What other classes with full gear can do exactly the same? Its beyond stupid the amount of tears on this forum.
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Hunter is 70yd away and a wall of players and pets between you and them, your move? Because that’s how Hunters in WSG look like.
Yes, there are other ways to deal with it, it does not change the fact that pets should not have power level of players or close to that. Pets should not be having 1500 HP+ unbuffed by default AND pump DPS close to that of a caster classes currently all by themselves.
I am telling you this as a Hunter - pets currently are busted AF and they NEED to be nerfed and that lost power moved to Hunter itself. The end result will still be a strong Hunter, but at least not the BS where pet soloes or almost soloes people.
I am pretty confident that Blizzard will nerf hammer pet scaling and BM rune in Phase 2.
Right now they are in vacation and then they will probably just not want to upset the “balance” of remaining 2-3 weeks of Phase 1.
Why I am confident they will nerf pets heavily Phase 2? Because IF they let them remain as is and have Bestial Wrath on top of that - it really would be a top meme.
Pet’s resist is broken, even if I play correctly RNG can screw me over and lose.
I keep my distance, try to poly → RESIST.
Then of course I cast my second poly but this time I’m getting HUGE pushbacks from both the pet and the hunter, AND damage of course, keep in mind I’m doing no damage, just trying to pull a poly off.
Finally I poly the pet, I’m like 30% hp, I try hitting the hunter, what do I see? The pet is behind my back because poly BROKE.
Also the serpents for some reason literally resist half my damage : arcane blast 120 damage and 110 resisted. I have screenshots of these. The huge hp pool is just the icing on the cake.
I’m finally exalted with wsg so I don’t care anymore, but for the ones that still struggle, I feel you.
Its Just dumb, Stop fool urself. I dont even Open on hunters anymore. They Hit me for once!!! And the pet ist shredding through my evasion and does more and faster dmg then me as a full geared rogue ? Sorry thats beyond stupid. The Cat is the Player now and Not the Hunter
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Pets have 30 to all resists via training. So yeah, you can get hurt by RNG pretty bad there.
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So you expect to poly a pet with one cast, disabling hunter’s damage for… how long. 40 seconds? If you poly a player, you can’t kill him, because you will break poly with damage, but in case with hunters - you can just spam-poly the pet until in worked and hunter lose his damage and in a same time - could be killed.
Imaging being upset about not be able to disable player’s half or more damage with 1.5 second cast so it requires more effort thn 1.5 fast cast. This is the reason why pet has resistance, to be a freaking threat. If you allow any melee class player the same amount of time near the mage - you gonna be dead. Probably you have no problems to kite warriors to death because they can’t reach you, you can blink out of their charge-stun, you can freeze with a several abilities, proper mage killing warrior without taking damage. But you probably forget about this disadvantage, you probably killing warriors and don’t think about how they think about it. But if you was killed by another player… yeah, that’s unfair 
a. Nice wall of text.
b, That’s what you geniuses are suggesting. “Just CC pet”… oh “you can’t just CC pet lul”.
c. If pet does not do this obscene damage, then “all damage” won’t be an issue.
See how this works?
Move pet damage from pet to Hunter and it solves problem both ways - Hunter is not “disabled” when pet CC-ed AND pet does not 1v1 players nilly-willy while hunter is good 70yd away in a backline.
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If you had opened up with Hibernate, then popped Nature’s Grasp for when the sleep breaks, you’d have won without a problem.
Noob.
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If they change resists at low levels to a point where it doesn’t feel like 20% resist but more like a 5% resist, hunters are put into their place.
They don’t need to change the resists, they need to simply slash pet total output by around ~60% and roll much of it back onto Hunter itself.
And also, the HP increase part of BM rune probably needs to go as well.
So, you want the rune to say
Your pet does 30% reduced damage.
It’s growl is now a taunt.