Hunter TWW speculations (Hopium)

After Four alpha builds of radio silence and 1 random tuning patch for Sentinel, I think Blizzard might be up to something.

Hear me out, with recent changes to Melee DPS (Druid and Rogue so far) removing their extra Melee range I think blizzard wants to add a raid buff to increase allies attack range(melee and casters) for hunters.

My speculations are that either of these scenarios is going to happen:

  1. They are going to make small adjustments to hunters in later updates, adding/removing/changing some talents. In addition they are going to update Dark Ranger and Pack Leader Hero Talents. Keeping Sentinel hero talents as is and at some point potentially add a new spec based on Alleria void hunter themed in the next expansions.

  2. Blizzard is planning a massive rework to all 3 specs and class tree. Adding aspects back for utility as auras like a 3-yard extra attack range or Aspect of the Pack and other aspects all over the place. Big changes to all 3 hero talents making hunters to be good for the next 3 upcoming expansions.

  3. Nothing happens.

I think 3 is more likely to be what we are going to get. but who knows, maybe there is a hunter developer, maybe we have someone that cares just lurking in shadows watching hunter players complain but he canā€™t do anything right now :upside_down_face:

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One can only dream. Aspect of the Fox and Pack in particular I miss dearly.
And feels like people have been complaining about hunters for so long that we are very conscious about not messing up the run/raid/arena.
We are ready again.

And they better not touch my melee range

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Yeah i dont know about that

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If they were planning a huge hunter rework, they would have said it 100% in the development update thread, like ā€œwe have this scheduled for another period in the alpha/beta, but itā€™s comingā€

Instead they said ā€œnothing specific to announce for hunter at this timeā€, which means nothinā€™s planned.

Itā€™s not like something big is brewing and itā€™s just calm before the storm. Itā€™s more like nothing will be done other than tune the 3 hero trees like they did on week 3.

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I hear you, but hunters wonā€™t get anything. Mate, hunters have been whinning LOUDLY since legion and nothing, NOTHING has changed. Hunters are the ONLY class that have actually regressed and actually LOST abilities, mechanics and functionality that made them what they are, never ever being replaced with some else, let alone better and are stuck as close to they were during vanilla than any other class atm.

Face reality, Hunter will never change. The only way you are going to get a different experience with this class is to play another game. You are trying to reach developers that are the same ones that removed a whole ranged spec to replace with a melee spec amongst like 14 or something other specs of the same type. FF14 has more ranged ā€˜specsā€™ with a 1/3 of the total classes.

Let that sink in, that they do not give a flying monkeys what anyone here on the forums are saying.

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Iā€™m just a hopeful and positive person. If we donā€™t get anything and they keep this silence until TWW launches, Iā€™m going to stick to my Ret Pala or Mage for season 1 and donā€™t bother with the hunter class and eventually leaving the game.

For all of DF nobody wanted me to play as a hunter. my friends and guildies who were fine with me playing hunter asked me to play BM. I kept playing my hunters as alts for world content and casual content, and why play BM when Mages exists and why play SV when Rets exists and they are both getting another rework and both have the best Hero Talents.

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Stop being hopeful of something positive happening to this class.
Itā€™s been losing all its class flavor steadily since it came out. Spirit Bond removed, all the aspects gone or made useless. Traps nerfed into oblivion. You still have one disengage since vanilla, while every other class has 4 gap closers/creators.
Instead be hopeful and positive of Demon Hunter buffs when TWW comes. Thatā€™s infinitely more probable.

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I think its time to face the truthā€¦
There is no hunter dev in blizzard class design team.
After 8 years of being hunter main, i actually give up and i think its time to reroll or just simply quit the game.
In have a suggestion, lets just chat about everything else except hunter in this forums because blizzard wont even bother to look :slight_smile:

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Thereā€™s been 28 days since the last hunter updates in the development forum, with the MoP event ending in August, suggesting that BETA or PTR will probably open in August for TWW, this is concerning that no hunter changes are coming.

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It is very concerning indeed! Only minor changes since DF beta. While many other classes has seen a ā€œmodernizationā€ during DF and more changes announced with TWW alpha. Hunters do suffer

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Well hopefully (1% chance) next week is going to be our week when they are going to announce something for hunters other than tooltip changes. since they removed all of the extra attack range talents for every melee spec the only spec left is Survival.

Right now I donā€™t get invites to keys higher than +2s on my alt. I wonder how it is going to look like if they leave us like this going to TWW, we will probably get kicked out of LFR and Heroic dungeons too because of our class color.

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We have been complaining in hope for a while now. Some of us for literally 8 years (RSV Players), nothing has changed. We have an old design that they know does now work well and is actually incredibly hard to balance properly. Our pets need an actual reworking functionality wise and need to be gone for any spec that isnā€™t BM, where they can be summonable temporary pets (mainly aesthetics) for both MM and SV, so yes SV needs an actual SENSICAL rework.

All this said, hunters will stay with their WotLK design mantra, as we still have the exact, EXACT same design state as WotLK hunt. We progressed all the way up to MoP/WoD then started to completely regress back from Legion onwards. PvP wise, this class is a SHAMBLES, just forget the damage done by MM, and peep the design philosophy of hunter, it is dog doodoo.

Donā€™t hold out hope people, either play another class or quit the game, because waiting for anything significant on hunter is pointless, we will just get more 2/3 point talent nodes with X% damage increase. Useless to even bother being annoyed.

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Given the silence over on the US side for Hunters, and the fact that the ā€œfeedbackā€ thread on our side is oddly set up so only blues can post in (some great feedback there).

I think the simple truth is that Hunters are ā€œfineā€ in Blizzardā€™s eyes, and they wonā€™t admit this because it will hurt TWW sales.

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The problem we are having mostly comes from big WoW streamers, specifically Maximum they talk and complain for 2 hours about the specs they play and love (example: Maximum made fun of Ebontoe set name and bonus from S3 windwalker it was changed and reworked in 1 week of PTR after that stream) but when it comes to Hunters they always say something like ā€œHunters are in a bad spot, letā€™s move onā€ and make fun of us.

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Removing Lunge was too much.

Time to unsub. Thatā€™s the only way theyā€™ll listen. And donā€™t forget to put a big middle finger in the unsub message.

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Speaking of hopium

pets could get some major improvement
ā€¢ pets ignore los for calls
ā€¢ pet attack range increase
ā€¢ pets get blinkstrike back so they can teleport on enemys if there is no path avaiable
ā€¢ pets cannot stuck into aoe CC, only if you target them
Edit:
ā€¢ heal pet Talent tree down from 2 point too 1 for the full effeckt

I am 2.4 in soloq Arena and halth of the skill of BM is too babysit your pet spam heal them so they get dispells and uptime, call back if they run los
In the arena mogosonething with the stairs you have too switch target based on teleports so your pets dont waste time running up and down

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Iā€™m going to add 1 more

  • Intimidation can be used when you are in CC just like any other pet specs

But the reality is they are just going to put another band aid on hunters and if there is going to be any rework itā€™s going to be similar to Rogue and ruin the specs even more.

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THIS!

If they are not gong to fully rework them or remove them, then THIS

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Guys, I donā€™t think weā€™re getting any changes close to what was described. Instead, I think Blizzard is just going to keep nerfing us and our utility until we choose to rerollā€¦

Iā€™m on the Doomium now, lads.

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They did post a statement talking about next week. We can only hope for SOME love.

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