Hunter's Mark, Kill Shot & Eyes of the Beast [Shadowlands]

Did anyone miss Hunter’s Mark?

Does anyone know how many Ninja pulls were done because of Hunter’s Mark?
Does anyone know that a simple Macro is needed to make this Spell Passive?

Kill Shot is ok if this can actually hit hard and reset on kill.

Eyes of the Beast is Meh.

Yep.

…I’m sorry. What?

…You want to put such a basic, non cluttering ability on a macro… for what? I mean sure i come from a generation that as soon as Hunter’s Mark was used there was a 0.5 sec global CD. But… Is that really necessary to waste time “coding” it on a macro?

Yes I missed hunter’s mark, I missed marking rogues and druids in pvp from 100 yards and seeing them in stealth.
How the hell did you ninjapull because of hunter’s mark?

Now I hope they will bring back more stuff like scare beast, tranquillizing shot, all the old stings.

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If Hunter’s Mark will be off gcd then ye, it can be good if i can bake it in my attack macro, if not then it’s just a boring ability that forces you to spend gcd to get +5% flat damage buff for only yourself, while monks and DHs provide +5% physical/magical damage for the whole raid as a passive… .

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I think spending 1 GCD for a permanent 5% damage buff is reasonable.

In terms of boring ability it depends. Consider its PVP usage, where you may actually want to hold it on a secondary target that can stealth.

Maybe they can turn it into a limited duration buff and open other mechanics through it.

For example you could have a 1 minute cooldown Hunter’s Mark, with 10-15 seconds duration that allows you to cast Aimed Shot on the move on that specific target.

Did you even play wow when Hunter’s mark was a thing?

In a raid you don’t want to run around and mark adds and use 1 GCD on it. Only one Hunter’s mark can be active at a time. So Hunter’s mark is mostly Single target/pvp talent.

There are many other spels that can make hunter more fun.

Having Hunter’s Mark off GCD and just macro it in all your possible abilities is dumb.

By that logic you should rather make it a passive and get over it.

It’s about what can be done to make it more interesting and satisfying when used not what can be done to use it while not thinking about it.

Currently 5% damage buff without expiry conditioned by me pressing one extra button? Yes please, it’s a good tradeoff.

Is it fun? Nowhere near. That’s why it should be changed to have more agency not less.

Considering that they will tune/balance the class around the use of said Hunter’s Mark, no it will not be.

The bonus damage it will give will be taken from our other abilities. So that they in turn deals less damage to compensate.

Sure, for PvP it has other upsides as well, like keeping certain classes visible/out of stealth.

But for PvE…it’s not really that useful.
Just another GCD used for a passive damage tradeoff.

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Yep. SInce 2008.

The question is, why would waste time marking every single add. If i mark a target either is the tank’s main target or a beefier mob that needs some extra punch. And bosses of course.

I am all into having Hunter’s Mark back at baseline for all speccs. But hey, no one forces you to use it if you don’t like it.

According to your progress, achivements and optimizing you are a troll and a noob and your voice or opiniion got no value.

There’s a thread about ranged survival on gd forums on us, i can’t write there but there’s a lot of poeple saying stupid things like three ranged archer specs are unnecessary and the like, i can’t respond there, please do it for us. Writing here coz i don’t know how else to let you know XD.

This one?

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/survival-return-to-ranged-please/355825

Added my own thoughts to it, we’ll see :slight_smile:

Having more abilities that fit your class is always a good thing to have

Honestly, i play more as a paladin. But then again that doesn’t matter to the conversation. I play my hunter more for fun than for challenging stuff. So achievements, optimization, and so on doesn’t exactly interest me at this time.

Then again, you do believe Hunter’s Mark aggro. So i guess there’s not much we can say about your previous reply to me. ^^

Yup that one ahah, imma go and read what’s become of it now, ty for your defending of rsv. I’ll keep my finger crossed, would really like to have a mobile dot spec, we’ll see.

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i wouldnt really consider it stupid people wanting survival to remain melee.

some do like Melee Survival.

nah that’s not what i meant, i’m fine for surv staying melee, but i want a 4th spec because rsv left a hole in the class which is not been filled yet. Also as long as rsv isn’t a spec they’ll keep putting talents in the MM that don’t fit in MM, effectively hindering another spec.

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well… they’ve stated No reworks, no redesigns, so imma pressume we wont be getting one this expansion atleast, i find it unlikely they’ll release new speccs when they’re not even reworking the current ones or even going for a new class.

I miss Headshoot.

I miss all the stings(serpent, scorpid, spider and viper) and hunters mark when they were actually useful and not just a waste of GCD which can be dispelled so easily.