HvH was received extremely positively and must be restored without undue delay ✅

Anyway when people start going alliance queues would disappear. And everyone is happy

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If some1 thinks that racials are going to matter for them, then they should be able to get to at least 2.3k or something with non meta racials. Cus before then it’s all about knowing your class, teammate and having the gear.

Now they’ve tested HvH, how about testing free transfers for a few days? It’s obvious the alliance needs numbers not just for PvP for PvE too.

Some of us rolled because friends play Horde, or we’re reliving our past adventures on WoW. I think most of us are over those reasons now and I would happily transfer to alliance, as would my friends.

Faction change could help a bit, sure. But it’s not fair to think people would massively reroll. HvH isn’t really that bad for alliance, and it’s huuuuuge for Horde. You can understand that right?

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Well I can agree with you but when Im on arena and never get from stunlock I remember good old days on netherwing server where I used to play orc. But I thought fast bg queues worth it

Orc warlock sure is something - even the racials on cd are sick. But Dwarf Disc priest for example is also insane man. Vs rogue we are in exactly the same boat my man! Horde and Alliance both wins and loses.

Edit: But back on topic - same faction queues barely have impact on gameplay for alliance and massively improves QoL for Horde players. Still hoping to convince you on that view.

I play alliance and I see better what’s going on. And this is really disappointing. From the end of classic horde become more and more dominative in my server. If it used to ba about 55/45, now it is like 70/30. Open world become more complicated, harder to collect group anywhere, ah become poor. And blizzard doesn’t want to do anything about that. They just heal headache with a head cut

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Here look at this comparison: Mograine (high pop Horde dominated) vs Gandling (medium pop Horde dominated)

ironforge(DOT)pro/population/tbc/Mograine/?comp=Gandling

You see active raiders on Alliance increasing over the last 8 weeks on Mograine (probably mains with alts etc. aswell) on Gandling you see those raiders on Alliance all declining. On Gandling the situation was Alliance was rare to spot in open world so every Alliance got milked to the bone, which made guilds migrate to Golemagg, Earthshaker etc.

The horde raiders in percentage is increasing at a similar pace as on Mograine, which aren’t Alliance rerolling, I can assure. But pugs being set up or alts that are lvled to join raids. Just a regular trend in the beginning of an expac.

Now look at the Earthshaker (High pop alliance dominated) trend: ironforge(DOT)pro/population/tbc/Earthshaker/

No increase on Horde side and massively on Alliance in the last week…
In fact Alliance does NOT reroll, but migrate. And Horde is just simply honor starved.

Now fact is; HvH stops Alliance migrating due to corpsecamping in open world and it improves Horde gameplay experience cus of no queues.

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No, if they bring same faction bgs back then let me switch to horde so i can get wotf without any downside

Isn’t this better to have a heathy population servers or about that.

You should l2p with a dwarf priest and get high rated. Reroll if you got 2.4k rating, before than it doesnt matter.

You can keep telling yourself that your wotf doesnt matter to make yourself feel better than you are!

Every server should be able to have an enjoyable experience for both Horde and Alliance. So every should have ENOUGH players to keep a healthy economy and run raids, dungeons, lvl alts etc.

Quality of racials are never that important to have such a disbalance of currently is, but BG’s are WAAAAY to much fun to have people queue up for that for an hour.

It’s the UD /laugh that is the best aspect of the racial tbh. Not wotf.

I know this is not really important. Tell this to you horde mates. Why they kill game balance

Sorry but I don’t understand your point. You think ganking and population imbalance is fixed by short queues and that HvH is the solution?

When there are 50% more Horde on a server than alliance (that’s 60/40), then no amount of HvH is going to stop the decline in alliance numbers, and it will still not be any fun to be alliance when you are continually outnumbered out in the open world and unable to do anything.

Horde haven’t stopped ganking and won’t. After a few weeks of HvH old habits will come back and, tired of being wiped by premades, they will gang up against lonely alliance players and make themselves feel better by ganking 3-5v1.

Add in the poor supply in AH (why these are not cross faction and global I don’t know, it’s really not that hard to achieve) as numbers decline and farming for certain things is almost impossible as they are permanently swarming with gankers and Horde farmers, and it’s a snowball effect.

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Hvh make Metaslaves Ignore alliance even more than it used to

Short queues definately contribute to reducing the honor hungry zugs in the world.

I just linked a Ironforge demograph of Alliance raiders increasing on Horde dominated servers during HvH, but Alliance pop MASSIVELY increasing on Alliance high pop servers. Alliance does not reroll cus of racials being OP, they just don’t… It’s a troll argument against HvH BG’s.

Alliance players migrating to Alliance dominated servers is the problem for pop disbalance.

That’s my point.

Piolho here
i also play morgrain horde now what?
I have 75k honor and 100 marks each on this one to, farmed on prepatch ready to go

And?
There is a reason the most played race is UD on arenas