Hypocrisy of content creators

So true.

Like, you quit WoW because #corporation1™️ is bad but you start playing games from #corporation2™️ which is worse? (I’m talking about New World)

Makes no sense.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, yes.

That being said… I think a lot of the content creators leaving right now have been fed up with the direction the game was taken for a couple years now. If you watch Preach or Madseason’s videos they cite system and content issues mostly, also monetization on Madseason’s part. I think they were considering leaving already, the recent stuff just gave them a push, or an excuse, or broke the camel’s back or whatever you want to call it.

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Exactly, this is what I was trying to say.

Stop using this word. Christ, it’s so cringe.

Stop using that word, it makes me recoil.

It’s cute seeing some people slowly come to realization that world sucks.

Meat you get, some comes from inhumane meat farms.
Clothes you get, some come from slavery and exploitation.
Electronics you get, labor camps.

It’s best not thinking about it. Ignorance is bliss.

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The forums are a venting place and high drama moments .
Low iq ppl are always hypocrites , i never watched streamers exactly for this reason .

They make money out of ppl they even work with some of them and get benefits but when things go wrong suddenly they are " the people’s champion " .
A beacon of negativity for youngsters .

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Stop putting Worgen in your name when you make a worgen character. That makes me recoil.

@worgenlefay and @pumpkin stop playing alliance, imagine being alliance in 2021 XD

I mean, obviously.

I just find the whole cult around a lot of them funny, god help you every criticise them they all have fanboy army’s who will nerdrage you into oblivion, the problem is when game devs start listening to them putting their wishes above the larger community. look at games like cod…few famous streamers complain about a gun and boom instant nerfs to appease them!

Ill watch the odd video when I find something interesting but I certainly dont worship them or feel any alliengence to them as many seem to…and thats more for youtube content, god only knows why people enjoy twitch…why the hell would you want to waste your online time watching someone else play games rather then play it yourself? just never got it

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That’s kind of the point he’s making. If you’re outraged at one but not them all and only talk about the daily trend one that everyone is talking about the most it can look like virtue signalling. If you unsub to Blizzard then go buy a game at Ubisoft, you’re kind of wasting your time trying to fight it.

The counter argument of it’s impossible not to give any of these companies money or avoid doing this without looking like a hypocrite isn’t a bad one either imo.

I’ll directly comment on this as an author, and suggest that the BETTER WAY to support ANY author whose work anyone likes, reads or supports is to buy it from other places (such as Barnes & Noble, Alibris, Books-A-Million, the author’s own website, or any number of local bookshops any of you have local to you. The OTHER way to support authors is to visit a library and ask them to order a book in as an author earns from the purchase and then from the lending of a book. Make certain to be on the lookout of independent authors (indie authors) who do this work independently from the “Big Five publishers” (such as Simon & Schuster as example). When you order from a local bookshop you FORCE Amazon to act as a store and not a distributor of a book, especially in the case of e-books that are published through “Kindle Desktop Publishing” (KDP) but the best way is to buy a printed book they’ll have published directly as a “print on demand.”

I work as an independent author which is why I can post this information from first hand accounts. Yes, I agree with that Amazon employees are treated badly, and I had signed the petition towards their efforts to unionize. The best way to boycott Amazon is by NOT buying your books from them but order it from other places, and if needed ask the author themselves for suggestions of where to buy.

I realise this is off the original topic, but your post reminded me of a time I was a local craft fair recently where there were several local authors present selling and promoting their books. One of them who we spoke to actually said that it was best to buy the Kindle versions of the books as he got a far bigger cut from those sales than from physical copies.

As you have actual experience in this area, I wondered whether this is true? I might have misinterpreted the part of your post where you spoke of Kindle Desktop Publishing.

The hyperactive Twitter chimps will soon enough find something else to chimp out about. So will the “content creators” who are completely and utterly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, as they sell out left and right to whoever pays them most, have 0 loyalty to any game they play and are only dragged towards what is currently famous and “meta” to play.

Outrage always lasts a limited amount of time before there’s something new to be outraged about. Outrage amasses drama, drama translates to views, memes, clowning => more money.

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The precise thing that they should have said is that “independently publishing” earns an author more, and yes, that includes Kindle, but there’s Smashwords, Google Play, Kobo and a lot more other options where e-books can be bought other than on Amazon. As for physical books, there’s a marked difference in the cut from paperbacks sold through KDP publishing them or doing it through Ingram who also act as a distributor at the same time. Some of the above entities and many others are available to do printed books, and if I compare what people say when they compare quality, often authors tell that the book at KDP is inferior in paper, colour of the cover and other factors, so while convenient to put e-book and print book at the same place, you do “pay” for quality at other places (which often will aggregate at Ingram anyway). Also Ingram sells the products to almost 40,000 business and in reality a book published on KDP does not as Amazon is an aggressive competitor to the “local bookstore.”

To a degree the person you spoke with is right, but I would guess from how he answers he does all his stuff at KDP (e-book then generating a paperback from it as you can do there now too) but from what is often advised, specifically at the author organisation I belong too (which works on better rights and representation for independent authors though it’s not a union) they advise to do all books with your own ISBN then publish e-books with one at as many places, and do the same with paperbacks with your own ISBN. And that rather than using the ISBN offered by the entity used for publishing.

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I kind of only buy kindle versions for a couple of years at least. That way my whole library is with me anytime I go on a holiday.

The irony of this post… :clown_face:

The wierdest thing is I started playing FF14 about two months ago, just before everyone started to jump ship, everything turned to poo at Blizz HQ publicly and certainly before the streamers started to talk about it.

I must be able to see where things are going in the future, let me know if you want me to read your future.

On the point of the streamers though, Preach has always stood up for not getting involved in this kind of garbage, he binned Method when all that debacle happened, and I’m sure he’s set to lose out financially for the move at least in the short term.
It’s a big step for the to just flip games when the majority of them have solely worked on WoW and the majority of their viewers come to see them stream WoW.

At the end of the day, people are free to choose to stream what they want and if it doesn’t sit well with them streaming a game from a morally bankrupt company then so be it. Who are you or I to judge.

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Imagine having that thinking, literal No Lifer right there.