I am beyond words

I’m enjoying the game. That’s why I’m paying for it. Calling the devs “clowns” and spamming clown emojis is not voicing your opinion. It’s you acting worse than a 10 year old.

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But nothing has happened! No other complaints about queues, others on here say the same, no other threads bemoaning queues, just this.

So is it Blizzard or something local to you?

It’s stating the obvious. They are clowns for delivering almost zero content past months. They are clowns for not upgrading infrastructure of their servers. That’s a crucial part to satisfy demand and let people actually play in any MMO.

You can’t understand this it seems.

Then leave. You literally keep giving them money even though you think the game is bad. Stop giving them money, and give it to them again when the game is good. When I don’t like WoW, I simply unsub and go play something else. You sound like you’d be much happier in FF14. Then go and play that instead. It’s that simple.

Also, I haven’t had a single queue since the Shadowlands launch. From the looks of it, same goes for everyone in this thread except for you. Isn’t that strange?

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And how exactly does that help anything? It’s not constructive, it doesn’t provide any information, and it makes you look like a child in the middle of a tantrum.

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FF14 has I would say inferior fantasy and setting vs. WoW in my opinion. People enjoy it nothing against that. I have played all MMO games and WoW checks all the boxes. Besides garbage servers (que, client) and zero content. This is a problem of managment and resource alocation if anything. I’d say the resource alocation doesn’t really go into the game anymore for what seems is 2 years now? More like fat paychecks while the “consumers” are “happy” with sub-optimal care for the game and its players. Blizz is a corporation after all. They could care less what you or me think.

And so I look like a child. Anything else you want to express? Please educate me with your profound wisdom oh elder.

I agree. Reporting someone for using a “different language than english” is like complaining about people breathing the same air as you do.

There are enough tools to just copy-paste sentences from different languages and just translate it online via tools. Google translate exists for that very reason :slight_smile:

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Yeah or deepl which is much much more better. Google is actually trash compared to its engine.

Never tried it. Will give it a look later :smiley:

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Yeah I think it will surprise you it’s very efficient. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:.

When they use a different language to use swear words and insults that can’t be caught by the language filters, it falls under bypassing language filters, which is against the CoC.

And from the social standpoint, it’s the equivalent of being in a international group of people where everyone is talking to each other in a language they all understand, except for the two friends who only talk to each other in their native language, excluding everybody else. It’s rude at the very least.

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While that is true… If you can’t read it, why would you be insulted by it or even bother? Not saying such doing would be ok, just a thought.

I disagree. It would be rude to demand them to use the same language. I have friends from various countries that do sometimes talk in their native for a longer time and I don’t see a problem.

What makes it a problem for most people is the mindset “they are talking in native, I can’t understand what they say, so it must be something rude or private that we shouldn’t know”. Some People tend to generate an enemy image on people that talk in their native while being in an international group, which is not very smart from a logical PoV.

They could :poop:-talk on you and the others in their native. They could also talk about their families and the weather.

Assuming that they say something rude in their native and “they exclude us from their conversation” is not necessarily a good mindset. After all, some stuff shouldn’t be heard by others, when it is for example something private about their own families or their life.

I wouldn’t want that either that others constantly know what I am talking about with close friends because I am “forced” to speak in English.

And honestly, in Forums it is, as I said, not much of a big deal, simply because you can translate it via online-tools, on the same device you are already reading it on. Some platforms like Youtube even offer an “auto”-translation on their Youtube app for comments.

I can read, for example, Russian comments beneath Russian videos simply because the platform offers a translation from Russian to my native.

It is not that much of a big deal.

It’s against the rules. If a blue post says that the forums are English only, they’re English only. It’s very simple.

Why do people have so much trouble following rules these days? It’s insane.

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Because it just so happens one of the two people who spoke a different language in this very thread used their native language in a different thread two days ago to insult me, and I just so happen understand that language without needing Google translate. And that person knows I can understand and it’s why they did it.

Also you yourself have suggested using Google to translate those posts, but why on earth would they even speak a different language when everyone, including the two of them, can speak English more than well enough to say the same? They didn’t say anything that doesn’t belong in the thread in this case, so essentially they just gave everyone else the middle finger and excluded them by speaking their language when they could have just as easily used English.

If it’s acknowledged within the group that they’re talking about something private, then sure. But talking about the exact same thing as the group but using a different language only the two of them can understand, for no reason at all, is just disrespectful.

I’m native in the languages in question here, and I still feel it’s disrespectful to the rest of the people.

I used to hang out online with two friends from Croatia and Bosnia, and they would at times speak Croatian to each other. However they acknowledged it to me and apologized. I’ve never complained, they were just being respectful and explained of their own accord that what they’re talking about is private between the two of them. And in that case, I am totally okay with it. However that’s not what happened here.

That makes sense in spoken language, not written online where we can translate it, although we shouldn’t have to do that in the first palce. The two people here just did it for no reason and then got mad at those who asked them to keep it English on an English forum.

Yes, but the rest of the group need to be aware of the context. Just randomly starting to speak a different language and then lashing out at those who question it is just stupid, and rude.

Even when nobody is being insulted, the other people are left wondering why in the hell a different language is suddenly being spoken.

Again, the others within the group need to be aware why you’re excluding them. Otherwise it’s just rude.

There are different Blizzard forums for the supported languages. German, Italian, Spanish, German, Portuguese, Russian and English. This one is English, and therefore the expected language here is English, same as German is the expected language on the German forums. It wouldn’t make sense to go the Italian forum and making a post in Russian there now would it? (I may have left some languages out but you get the point)

Videos comments on sites such as Youtube are much different. There’s no such thing as English Youtube and there isn’t just a single comment thread for each video. Each comment under a video is like the equivalent of a forum thread here.

TLDR just keep it English in here when you can. There’s no reason to switch between languages when you’re perfectly capable of saying the same things in English. I very much doubt you’re spilling family secrets here so much that you need to use your own language for it.

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Following rules is not the problem. If those rules make sense is the other question I would say.

Yes, it is Blizzards forum but Blizzard also has no Forum forums for Serbian players (like the 2 above).

EU Forums only contain:

  • German
  • English (EU)
  • Spanish (EU)
  • Italian
  • France
  • Russian

They have not their own forum, so basically Blizzard is forcing them to write and speak English all the time in any forum on Battle.net, which is not very fair compared to the other “Main Languages” of the EU.

From what I have seen if both posters in question, and their very similar attitude and use of ‘clown’ it wouldn’t surprise me if they are one and the same.

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Rules don’t only apply if you agree with them. That’s not how rules work. You either follow them and you’re fine, or you don’t and you face the consequences. My language is also not among those and I’m not complaining. Deal with it.

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They’re also not Serbian, but Czech and Slovak. For someone claiming it’s so easy and simple to just translate it on your own, you sure are not doing it yourself.

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They aren’t. If our favourite banned paladin with 4000 posts tried to say the same things as the other person, you’d still be on their first post deciphering what the hell they were even trying to say.

They do however come from more or less the same culture. They were brought up to be like this. That’s why they’re nigh indistinguishable in behaviour. Except one of them speaks a much, much better English than the other.

The “main” language of the EU is English. It’s the one internationally used language most spoken, or at least to some level understood by the highest number of people. It makes the most sense to just have one English with high activity than some 50 different forums with little to no activity. Just go look at any of the localized forums and see how dead they are. Sure you can use them, if you’re fine with waiting 2 weeks for one person to respond.

Also it’s not just EU that plays here. It’s the whole of the continent and Russia.

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