Sylvanas was once Scourge. So she is Scourge now! And so are all the Forsaken raised during the Lich King era, daaamn…
Humans were once babies. So it means they are all infants now! Why is your character speaking and not lying in bed feeding on a bottle of milk?
In other words, what you just said means that no player is allowed to play an undead elf just because you have no proof that they are real. I am not allowed to play an elf that once died and was resurrected despite the game having such elves and the creators giving me an option to creare them. But I need to collect more proofs and scientific justifications to play a basic simple race in a huge fantasy game. PoroSad
Ah I see. Personally im of the opinion that some Character creation options are only put in for OOC reasons (for example: Lightforged Shadow Priests cannonically cannot exist, but have to exist OOC due to OOC game mechanics). I imagine (personally) that VE got the Darkfallen skin because Blizzard expected complaints if they didn’t, so it was easier for them to tick a box than deal with angry customers. Not because you have specifically have Alliance Darkfallen cannonically.
That being said, that OOC choice does give people options for RP characters, and i feel you could have an Alliance Dark Ranger as an RP character via the Ebon Blade or Argents as a result (but I personally wouldn’t expect them to be welcome in a major settlement like SW. Realistically in my mind they’d be a Pariah helping from the shadows…sort of like Batman).
people explained to you how certain types of undead would be responded too.
This doesn’t mean that they cannot be played; but you just didn’t like how they’d be responded too and now you’re twisting it into other people trying to gatekeep what you’re playing.
Arguably it is, because there is no explanation of how these Darkfallen (blood and void elves, who are not hunters/Dark Rangers) have come to be. Just like how there no answers to many other important questions regarding the Undead. Because the game has a very long history and has seen many writers who imposed their views on the plot development
Sylvanas and those within the Forsaken are the undeads who once they became free from the Lich King’s control rejected what had been done to them. They remembered what had been done to them and were finally free to do as they wished.
The San’layn is part of the group of the Scourge that generally enjoyed less mind control, if much at all. The stronger undeads who even without direct control served willingly and embraced their new nature and what they had become. These are even the ones when Bolvar took over, rejected the new lich king and kept their allegiance to the old scourge or just tried to go out on their own to do whatever. They did not turn “good”.
But there is. There is alot of explanation. Darkfallen is just literally any undead elf. Many elves were killed during the 4th war on both sides, many were resurrected.
Those are the new playable darkfallen from Blizzard’s standpoint.
Like I explained in my post above this, there are different groups of undeads and they are pretty clearly explained.
We have an explanation, Blizzard didn’t want to limit people to having that customization for hunters only.
Once a single non-DR Horde Darkfallen appears in the game, we can start asking the question (but even then the answer will be: they got ressed in Third War and became Forsaken with DRs).
Also, given your stance on San’layn being impossible thing in the Horde (as they’d cease to be San’layn, for some reason you made up), it’s really starting to look like you have in fact been RPing a San’layn, but merely calling it something else.
You are making up reasons for everything you’ve said, too. These are your headcanons. Your High Elf has just as many rights to be there in tge Alliance as is every Forsaken in the Horde. But only the Undead receive such a negative reaction here. In game I don’t have problems because I’m trying to find fun people who are less stressed out about determing the origin and the full backstory of the character they see.
On Moonguard US I’d gladly partake in RP that is enforced by a new youtuber Juicesleepy. I just wish to find a guild like his here on EU as well to rp in the similar style, even it it’s too chaotic at times
I have already said that I don’t mind silly casual one-on-one rp if the participants agree on that. I am on the phone and can’t scroll to the beginning atm to quote it
It’s nice that you’re mentioning Moon Guard, but, sadly, you are not the only one who knows people who have played in there or have played there.
Saying that 'undead sometimes receiving a sour IC reaction, especially by the Alliance, is only an Argent Dawn headcanon thing" is not only disagreed by canon, it’s also disagreed by Moon Guard as a whole.
Hell, most RP-PVP campaigns in Moon Guard since Legion have been based around Lordaeron and the conflict between sects of humans fighting against forsaken, with the most recent one in mind being a large Alliance campaign fighting against a breakaway group of Ex-Sludge Fields forsaken soldiers that the forsaken themselves invited the Alliance to go beat up because they were openly rebelling against the Desolate Council and the Horde.
The only difference between their reaction to undead in Stormwind in Moon Guard and Argent Dawn is this.
In Argent Dawn, they tell you to your face that what you are doing isn’t lore-abiding, and how you can change it.
In Moonguard, they just slap you into their ignore list because they’re not about to waste 24 days trying to explain why what you’re saying isn’t canon with someone who clearly knew enough of lore and roleplay to know that san’layn goes with an apostrophe and how to set up a TRP.
