I dont like the current M+ Dungeons in S3 and it will stay for... 6 months?

Hi,

do you also feel like the current dungeons are very bad? I have done everyone already on fortified/tyrannical on the lowest with 25. After the second week already, I didnt want to do anymore and now I stopped doing them for fun and only do for vault. I didnt even start to do them on alts (see here) because of how unfun they feel.

Last season there were many more I enjoyed, like BH, FH, UR or NL

This season however, everything feels bad and isnt enjoyable. Pull size and pull speed intervalls are also part of this.

E.g. DOTI dungeons with their RP, flight portals and the bosses or trash on fortified (e.g. fall before 2nd boss).
Throne were you have to walk a lot without mounting… and boss with intermission phase, etc. Not fun.
Atal feels boring, BRH feels long, DHT feels boring, idk

Only one I can partly like is WM…

besides DOTI I think the dungeon pool is better than last season.

everyone is entitled to their opinion what they like more or less, but yea you probably have to run them for 6 months, find other content to do or just play another game.

every season has been like this.

I mean if you goal was to gear is more or less to almost max and key KSH and maybe portals, then you are probably done already if you don’t enjoy the content itself

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The dungeons from this season are just literal trash. I only like DOTI. last season was much better and they had cool old dungeons like VP. I don’t like legion dungeons, legion expansion in general is not my cup of tea (didn’t play it current though). Most dungeons are too dark too.
I don’t understand why people don’t like DOTI, the timer is fine and the dungeon is cool.

yeah i made the wrong decision to sub for 6 months…

but maybe I just level up a few chars or start getting familiar with crafting or quest or idk.

my hpal is already only a few pieces away from maxed out gear and idk running these dungeons to push is no fun

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it would have been nice when we would have something like 10 dungeons instead of 8, so there would be potentially more fun dungeons. Especially now when the Dawn dungeons are so unfun.

I have nothing bad to say about the gearing process though. Great for you you are already 480 :slight_smile:

I can imagine if you are pushing to max, dungeons are hard reliant on good tuning.
If you are just running around in 20s, the dungeons are ok.

They are not exactly super mega fun because of pulls, I agree with you. But at least the tuning in this bracket isn’t incredible bad.

Actually it would be fun to have dungeon rotations. Like monthly to freshen things up.
They would need to come up with a loot and RIO solution though.

now our dungeon pool gets larger and larger but we always just play 8 for a very long time

For me the seasons are even too short to fully understand what is going on so for me that would be almost unplayable. Also will never start trying out a different role/spec when that would happen.

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Yeah, the length is fine. We can’t cater to the top of the top only :sweat_smile:

Anyway back to topic I’d agree that most dungeons aren’t the most fun but I’m way too happy with waycrest being back to care :')

Although I’ll be happy with megadungeons not making it to M+. Out of all of them, only mechagon felt great for m+, maybe tazavesh too but to a lesser degree because the RP and never fixed bugs are not any good for M+. Also them not putting megadungeons to M+ allows them to do more with the concept, put more emphasis on the fun and new stuff without worrying that x or y will be bad in M+.

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finally somebody who feels the same way :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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I can’t quite put my finger on why, but yeah, I don’t like this season’s dungeons as much as last year’s.

The only one I look forward too is Waycrest, all the others have something about them that is just a PITA that makes me want to… not. Just not.

It might be because I mostly heal and everything is tuned around group survivability with no difficulty in meeting the timer if you don’t wipe - but wipe prevention is possibly the hardest it’s ever felt. Another season of “HEALER???”

But in any spec I loathe More Morchies with a passion, I don’t like the spinny sands boss on casters, I don’t like the goo boss, I hate Yazma, I hate the three trees AND the archmage in Everbloom, Tides last boss is an aggravating area denial, the Blackrook Donkey Kong boulders get me over and over again, and the Darkheart endboss is just… yeah. No.

I just don’t want to be in any of these dungeons. Going there for 1-2 vault slots is more than enough, and I’ll try to just do Waycrest if I can get away with it.

Can we have Freehold back? Loved Freehold.

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I like them so far… 3 dungeons stand out as being bad tho… DOTI and throne of excrement.

But the others feel solid…

But it could have been worse, we could have been stuck with the DF dungeons only for 2 years :scream:

I liked BH so much

also what truly is missing in this rotation is dungeons with multitarget bosses.
In FH second boss or in BH first boss. For specs like affli they are so much fun.

DOTI is the only dungeon that feels like hard enough to be a +20, from the ones I’ve done so far.

I don’t mind the rotation, if you don’t like the dungeons, then you might want to consider other gearing routes until S4 / TWW S1 starts.

Well, its a bit unfair to compare end of S2 after 3 months of tuning to the start of S3.

What I will say is that im happy that Exodia comp is dead. So that is a start right there.

But I have to agree that some dungeons feel … clunky…

  • DOTI: Both these dungeons are really bad IMO. Compared to the SL and BFA versions (tazavesh and mechagon) its utter trash. I HATE with all my life. I hate that the whole dungeons are literally: TWO ROOMS of mobs and some bosses: 2nd and 3rd boss room for FALL and room before and after Tyr for RISE. And because there are so few mobs, those mobs are each and every one of them mini bosses in their own right. They hit like trucks, no way to counter them… with 100000 unavoidable things that hit hard as hell and are unavoidable… dispells, bleeds, AoE, ST, CC… ALL at the same time… its just sad and anoying really…

DOTI asside: The rest of the dungeons have the more or less the same issue: 1-shot mechanics in key parts of the dungeon, while the rest being EZ. Its not fun this way.

I would simply cap the “stomp” damage bosses do. Because either way, the higher the key level the more HP the bosses will have. And eventually, the DPS will not be able to burn down bosses fast enough for the timer, or the healers mana will run out. No need for “BAM - 100 to 1% health with deff CDs on” mechanics. Its just frustrating for no reason.

As for trash: If there are unavoidable skills like in Doti trash, then I would just cap their damage too for the same reason as for bosses. However, if it is avoidable, or there is a counter to it (some CC, interrupt, LOS, ect…) then just let it scale infinitelly untill it 1-shots if you fail.

Overall its OKish IMO. But it needs balancing. Not too much, but its far from perfect.

Yes, Waycrest has been an all time favorite :slight_smile: I think i am fine with most dungeons except the Dawn dungeons this season. I have nothing against mega-dungeons. For me Mechagon and Taza were fine.

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Only everbloom. The 3rd boss can go die in a fire. They need to stop designing bosses that do a ton of damage while you have to move or make priests able to cast on the move.

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Hmm, maybe i was unfair towards tazavesh but return to karazhan was… hoo boy.

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Awe what a tragedy

DOTI dungeons are awful but other than that i think this season is better than last two seasons

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The worst part is that it is RNG of who gets hit how often from the fire storm and also sometimes the casts themselves.

It hit me 5 times for more than 300k in 2s before I succumbed to it, while some dps got hit once… and u cant foresee it to use bubble or something because after the first 700k+ hits u top yourself just to die again. And yeah u gotta do it while moving, so use daybreak + triple holyshock, have beacon shield maybe, personal used anyway and if u are lucky you had wings for this cast intervall up

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