I’m leveling my own shaman right now, and I don’t think the healing specialization should have access to such a potent damage tool.
Now, I’m fully aware that Resto Shaman isn’t in the greatest spot right now, and I would of course like to have other aspects of the spec buffed to compensate.
Gust of Wind also made its return from Legion except nobody will ever pick it because it’s locked behind 7 useless talents and therefore not worth taking.
Blizzard should relocate this talent elsewhere in the tree because if it stays here, the expansion will end with 0 shaman ever using the damn spell.
These were my thoughts.
Feel free to agree or disagree with them.
I didn’t mind the idea at all until I took a Stormkeepered 121k LB crit off a Resto Shaman in 2s. Wouldn’t surprise me if they also had Skyfury behind it, not that I noticed nor expected that sort of damage when their LvB typically only crits in the region of 30-40k.
Using cast time spells is just not happening as rsham atm and most games I’m winning is from helping dps set up kills with unleash shield, cc and stormkeepering kill target
Crits might be a bit much, but I’d at most say make it unable to crit
Can’t really compete vs rdruid, evoker or mw in terms of sheer hps
dont worry they cannot cast it anywhere outside 2s
im currently making build with no lasso nor stormkeeper or any dmg modifiers at all as i literally dont have the time to cast 1 sec stormkeeper spell to attempt finish of guy every 1min
i have to spam every global on heals to people doing random s*#t with never pressing their defensives or using cc with tought
i dont know if its even possible to use 1 global for lava burst proc rly or if that is better used on trying squeeze on more heal on guy tanking cds, a heal that does 20k on guy that is tanking 60k worth modifiers and cds without using single wall to trade for it
its not like the shadowlands season 2 rshaman where u could rly do dmg and heal and purges too, now u just spam heals and nothing else, if ure lucky u can cast some surges but rest time u just spam riptide and unleash on global and getting more tilted by the hour
and now that i think of it, why would anyone play rsham for the only purpose to just spam heals? when the idea is being aggressive healer that weaves dmg between the heals?
If I cant have single global to do nothing else than heal then surely rdruid or any better healer than shaman makes more sense no?
U dont use stormkeeper in anywhere outside controlled kill window in 2s
go to yolo like everyone and train the rshaman and any other shaman u see and never think about stormkeeper being in anyones trees again
Honestly if I had to choose between instant Lava Bursts and Stormkeeper bursts I’d choose Stormkeeper any day of the week, I just don’t know how I feel about healers using the same spells as DPS specs to do significantly more damage with them.
Had the same issue with Holy Priests in Shadowlands.
idk lava burst is quaranteed crit always on flame shock and theyre instants and costs 1 talent point when stormkeeper is cast that u dont have time for as heal in yolo and in order for it to do these numbers what ppl talk about u need 2 other talents of modifiers for lb to do these numbers + the stormkeeper so 3 talents in total for one spell thats 1 sec cast and 1min cd
weaving in dmg between spamming heals in df is just luxury rshaman dont have anymore, only in 2s where u will play with something like demo that u know are not going to die between ur 1sec cast of some other than heal
I mean ye but trying to balance anything around Shuffle is a fruitless endeavor, it was destined to fail and even if Blizzard addresses the multitude of issues with it, it will still inherently promote degenerate PvE gameplay.
Idk, I think I just prefer the idea of healers contributing controlled, meaningful damage windows. I never really liked the idea of Resto Shamans just spreading Flame Shocks around and casually farting out instants every couple of GCDs for the level of damage that it could lead to, especially when it’s already a very momentum driven healer that thrives when it’s ahead.
Lets remove 100k RSK from monks.
lets remove penance damage part from priests.
Lets remove judgements from holy paladins.
Lets for sure remove disintegrate and flame breath from dragons.
h ttps://murlok.io/shaman/restoration/3v3#talents-specialization
looking for 3v3 i see rshams not rly playing any of the dmg potential the class as healer is expected to weave in between its heals as rsham brings in table dmg, purge, range kick top of its heals but now it just spams bad heals which other healers do better
they dont rly spec stormkeeper or lava they pick anything that helps them heal more
and if i look drainur not play any of the dmg talents either then i rly know theyre no use at all sadly
I agree. In fact, I think the talent choices and changes made to shamans in general are completely senseless, and removed any uniqueness Elementals had.
Resto shaman should not have access to Stormkeeper.
Resto and Enhance should not have access to thunderstorm or lasso.
one day when i open the dumpster and there is lizard it will be like “there be dragons”
for shaman to work ppl need to think about the fact that its bad healer compared to any else than hpalas
so what does a bad healer bring on the table then to make it worth? it brings dmg and range kick on 12sec cd with grounding and its signature purge it spams
so what now when rsham cant do anyting else than spam every global on some heal that does very little compared to every other healer?
why play rsham is the real question here not why it has stormkeeper or if they should do dmg
i think they are doing too little dmg concidering they are not able to do dmg outside of 2s
It’s not Rsham specific.
It’s a combination of heals being too weak and dampening ramping up too fast.
My Enveloping Mist ticks at 2500 healing, so I’m spamming vivify - when I’m not getting immediately shut down since it’s a hardcast - and my team mates still dies through it.
and its worse when people do these mexican standoffs on beginning for 2min for no reason both sides sitting on mount behind pillars stareing at other side doing the same
even if both teams are just zug
i guess thats how to spot the “now i can finally learn pvp i have seen the dragons” ppl
like why do i even prehot them if we just waiting hots to fall off everytime and dampen to rly sink in
It kinda blows my mind that Resto Shamans have had throughput issues for like 3 expansions on the trot now considering that at one point people hated them for being able to top someone instantly from 5% with one cast.
It’s not just dampening.
We now have the same HP as we did in WoD.
Except in WoD, enveloping mist was ticking for 35k. Now it ticks for 5k with 0 dampening.
Overall healing output is pathetic nowadays.
and rsham current design for 3s is pathetic at best, u just spam heals and can do nothing else they can even hardly cast theres no time and ur being trained and u dont have teleport or roll u rely on team to peel and ur pathetic shaman cds
stormkeeper is only a thing for 2s, takes 4 talent points to make a punch aswell two in left two in right
but im not planning to touch 3s on rsham tho, its garbage for there and for yolo q
its sadge that theyre just nerfing all other heals except lizard
its rly boring to see seasons like sl s3 with no variety where its just priest after priest and outlaw after outlaw
and now they insist making it about lizards and dhs
i go to random bg while leveling my rsham and theres 6 dh on enemy team and 5 sp on my team and some lizard healers
u can rly spot the fotm on random leveling bgs
but non related hot take on these fotm rolls tho, i did 4 soloq just as heal and there i saw one dh who blurs when heals are cc or to trade for cd and guy is pumping 40k dps while he also puts darkness for his friend going low
then i see 3 dh who do barely 10k dps while me and other dps kept enemy heal on over 20sec cc and nothing dies
fotm rolls who cant even play the easyest class or fotm class on even half power, but still very boring to witness so many same class over and over
