I feel bad for Ret mains

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Ever since Warlords of Draenor ended, Retribution Paladin has been gutted further and further without remorse. It used to be such a high value class to have around due to off-healing and high damage output combined with plausible control combos. Playing Empowered Seals felt GOOD, and you actually had choice in terms of your talents for PvP.

Now?

You’re a literal Glass Cannon, people complain about the insane damage output whenever they die to RNG wins and fat go without any cds used, which results in Blizzard nerfing them further and further into the ditch.

In 2s its okay if you play with another hybrid like a Feral Druid due to the synergy between survivability & off-heal, but the second you enter 3v3’s, its game over. Without BM trinket, the only viable ‘defensive’ you have becomes completely useless, with Mortal Wounds up, Shield of Vengeance absorbs what, 16k damage? Blows up for equal value.

Your healing is only considerable with Divine Purpose proc + Wings Word of Glory when you’re low, and the only death-save you have is Bubble on a 3,5min cd, with most comps atm having MD or Shatter in it.

With Frost Mage + Lock becoming meta with this annoying trinket, I genuinely think that Retribution Paladin is more or less legitimately unplayable at a higher MMR. Even the tier set is another RNG damage spit in your eye. Seraphim for 3 seconds + 50/50% chance to get Wake of Ashes? Who designed this?

Bring back Seals that give you short buffs, and please for the love of god make crusader strike not feel like an actual waste of a keybind. 2 Crusader Strikes do equal damage to a single melee swing.

Get rid of divine steed, it is the single most WORST mobility ability in this game. Way too predictable. Long Arm of the Law back please, and thank you!

Eye for an Eye which is a 35% physical dam reduction should be BASELINE, and the talent should turn into magic damage protection instead. This spec has absolutely NO defensives, and only damage.

(ps. if u check the profile don’t expect to see big gear or stuff, this is a RP char lmao)

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Doing this amount of dmg on ret, is kind of a defense <.<

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Ret design was better in wod, but we are definitely a lot stronger now and have been whole shadowlands.

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they are still very good and they were meta last ssn
they are alright try class like adk

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I have no idea why you are complaining.

Warlock - Mage - Healer comp was B tier during the 1st and 2nd season. Its 3rd season now and they are finally starting to shine, which is usuallly case because haste levels go up and they can cast between the 10 different cc turbo comps has.

Now they became a bit better due to the trinket but its not like this trinket is always playable. Its useless against RMP and kind of scary against jungle too, 2 strongest comps. So its only properly useful against turbos.

And no. Ret - X melee comps/turbos are not weak AT ALL. They are not weak, they didn’t get weak. I have no idea where that is coming from.

If its YOU suffering a setback; then i guess now you have to properly look out for Mage - Lock cooldowns, be cautious of your positioning and what not instead of zugzugging.

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Buddy if you think haste is the reason why LockMage is good, your whole entire point becomes irrelevant because you clearly do not play the game.

The reason why LockMage is good is because the warlock spams perma-roots in africa with 20k frost bolts, while the lock either drain 1shots someone, dispel 1shots someone, bolt 1shots someone, or simply does 45k demon bolts on someone. And all of that is made possible by the fact that you can’t reach them, and whenever you do, some random thing u do triggers cc immunity and ruins ur go.

Not to mention this post is mainly about Retribution Paladin DESIGN, not how good or bad it is at the moment on the ladder. I don’t exactly care if ret pala is #1 because it 1shots every chud on the ladder that gets ran over by a turbocleave because they can’t press cds on time, or the awful rng 1shots land true and you 100-0 someone for no reason at all other than u won the lottery.

Fact is you’re a glass cannon. One trick Andy. Press wings or get wings proc, and go Ladi dadi daa brrr plrprlrplrprlr and 1shot something. If that doesn’t happen you get trained down and die in a global because you’ve nothing else to give, and no matter what ur team does, u can’t stay alive.

Personally I do not main this class, and used to have it as my close 2nd alt because of how fun it used to be. I’ll toss my reply to Kayjitsu on the same go here. “Just play something else” is a toxic mindset to have.

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i agree delete rets, was a mistake back in 2006

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Rets usually play with a kyrian warr or a WW. You are not supposed to have 100% uptime if that is your compalin. If its about not being able to lock either of the targets down its an l2p issue.

Aff Lock’s 50 stack drain does between 15 to 20k damage. Unless you have season 2 challanger gear; you are not getting one shot by freakin’ drain life.

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Ye poor ret paladins. Since wod. Its almost like they didnt had an s+ godmode tier comp last season…

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no u

10 chars

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Lmfao

One of it is up for a minute and oneshots you the other1 has unlimited duration idk about that.

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whining about ret pala thats insane

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