I get that dh was strong, but

Is this actually necessary at this point? A few more of these small % nerfs and dh won’t really be good anymore.

Havoc doesn’t really overperform in aoe or st at this point.

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PvE nerfs barely touched us, we still gaming dw :slight_smile:

Maybe, but slap a few more of these nerfs, and we won;t be good anymore.

St is already slightly underperforming, just a little bit.

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Slightly underperforming? I feel like Chaos Strike and Annihilation hit like a wet fart in DF. This is especially noticeable in PvP. Not sure where all the damage went, but even in Meta with 20% Demon Soul my Annihilation kinda just tickles.

Well, first they nerfed first blood, and then annihilation by a bit, but it was actually the nerf to first blood that made us do slightly below average st damage.

If you think i’m joking, i’m not, havoc dh st damage is actually not super great.

40s Eye Beam is still the worst thing they did to DH. I get it it needed a small nerf but by already splitting Eye Beam components into a whooping 4 talent points it already got gutted that way.

And being less in Demon Form as a DH just feels bad in general period.

You can stay in meta for quite a long time, the gameplay is good, it’s just that if they continue with all these small nerfs eventually they will be a big nerf.

The first blood nerf was already quite big, since it went from 85% to 75%. And that was pure st, not even aoe, which is havoc strong point.

Just go Outlaw. I already told my friend who mains Outlaw that its a gigantic joke that they even get a compensation buff with Dispatch for the Pistol Shot nerf while being one of the top dogs.

That was because opportunity was overperforming a bit, so they nerfed it while giving back damage to keep it rolling.

People are just overreacting and pretending that havoc is like this god tier spec that nothing else can touch.

Iv’e tried more than my fair share of specs in the game. It’s not, it’s strong, but if you think that it’s just way above and beyond everything, you’re wrong. And you should probably try a few alts, because that screams “i only play one class” to me.

To give yourself a bit of prospective, if you are the kind of person to say: This spec is way too op, nerf it. Most of the time that kind of talk is just not justified.

I love those people calling my spec a 2-3 button class, meanwhile with DF I actually have equal or more buttons than my feral druid in PvE (7 as my Feral)

Just goes to show you people in general have very little clue about other classes.

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Yea it’s a bit stupid, and even if it was true, it doesn’t really mean much, it can still be fun as long as the interactions are nice.

Like antorus havoc. Was it as good as it is now? No, but was it fun to play? Yes.

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