I Have to put graphic quality in raids and bgs to 1 to play (WOW War Within)

I have got a pc with the following specs

Gigabyte B360 Aorus Gaming 3 Wifi, ATX, 4xDDR4, S1
Intel Core i7-8700, 3.2GHz/4.6GHz, 12MB, S1151
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 G1.Gaming 6GB
32GB RAM and new SSD where WOW is on

My problem is that recently I had to put graphic quality in raids to 1 to make it playable.

I know my graphic card is dated, and am looking for replacing it.,
However want to know if there is anything else I can do to make my machine perform better in raids specifically.
Especially when raid is full graphics are horrible.
Performance has gone down in war within.

Any suggestions welcome!

Also I know i possible also need to get a new power module if I want to replace graphics card making it even more expensive. Need to know for sure that it wll help a lot to replace card!

Welcome to the very low fps club, mines is 10 fps in raids if I’m lucky t_t

I’ve been meaning to upgrade but alas, inflation hits everything :smiley:

It’s indeed the graphics card <_>

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In raids, there are two performance limitations - the world state (who, where, when, and how) which can cause one CPU core to reach 100% load and it will limit FPS. Then particle effects - in some fights and trash pulls if a lot of effects go at the same time it can overwhelm the GPU (usually pixel fill rate - how fast the memory subsystem works and then how fast it can be rendered).

If you are lowering it to “1” and it improves FPS then it can be particle effects - you can try higher quality preset but limiting particle effects. In the end, you would need a stronger modern CPU and then a better GPU while still getting performance problems randomly in WoW due to their regressions and weird bugs.

You can check some of my benchmarks:

https://rkblog.dev/posts/category/wow/

:slight_smile:

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Not sure if you are talking about the OPs GPU?
Anyways, in his case the CPU is a MUCH bigger bottleneck in raids.

WoW is mostly singlethreaded and thus VERY CPU-limited when there are many players and/or NPCs near, especially while in combat with all the addons interacting via combatlog.

Let me give you guys an example, check this DF CPU-benchmark here, look at the bottom;

As you can see in this case (a 5man dungeon) the FPS on a 8700K was around 60 FPS on average.
My 5800X3D about twice that.
Now let me tell you that i have drops to the 40s in 20man raids and drops below 30 FPS on some intense 30m HC bosses like Rash on pull with BL or when certains things happen in the fight.

If you were in the same raid with me at that time with the usual addons and Weakauras, then you should have half of these FPS, so drops to 20 and even 10 in some rare cases.

Now if we go to the upper end of CPU performance, the currently fastest CPU for WoW and most gaming in general, the Ryzen 9800X3D, you would still have some drops below 60, but not as bad or frequently.

tldr; the only way to gain a significant amount of performance is to upgrade to a recent Ryzen X3D chip (you should stay away from the 13/14th Intel gen because of some big issues with degradation).

You could keep the 1060 for some time if you are only playing in 1080p/60hz.

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Sorry I am the original poster had some issues with character profile!

Yes I heard the CPU is a problem too.
So i checked the purchase date of pc. It is September 2018.
That is older then I thought because it is still in excellent shape, except for this problem.
Although I didn’'t buy a bad one, I now feel bad of investing in a videocard with this old system
So I am going to test some graphic settings.
Problem is mostly i larger raids and bgs.

Maybe I can extend the life of the pc and start thinking of buying a new one in 2026 or so.

Shame weakauras are so problematic.
Thanks for all the tips and advise.

Yeah, start planing for an AMD AM5 platform with a current gen X3D CPU and you’ll be good for a couple of expansions :slight_smile:

Oh and btw. make sure your RAM is running with the XMP profile enabled, aka running at it’s max rated speed and not the base speed of 2133Mhz.