That guy got kicked 4 times for asking table food! FOUR TIMES which it means you get deserter 4x 30 = 120 mins (2 hours)
Is that what you want like this, devs? You are not supposed to get deserter if you get kicked because people abuse votekick so what is so hard to understand between leave and kick? If you want to leave and it is your choice to get deserter, but not get deserter by abusing votekick.
It upsets me when people got kicked for no reason due to abuse votekick. HOW CAN YOU ALLOW IT TO ABUSE VOTEKICK LIKE THIS? I have been playing more than 20 years and I have seen when people abuse votekick! So please it is time for you to change it!
This has been so since the change over a decade ago. You should’ve been there when it was extremely rampant that tanks and healers just refused to do the dungeons and held the dungeon hostage to get kicked only to requeue into the same one/party again and again or threatened to stay until the rest left, bizarre!
They did recently change it to include even mid-dungeon leaving on community request.
It is not an opinion. The fact is that Blizzard made the system this way and grants 30 minute debuff for any reason you leave it before it is finished.
I have yet to see a proper suggestion to change it so it can’t be abused.
Proposals so far include but not limited to:
“Just remove it” The darkest times will come back again
“Reduced cooldowns stacking upwards” so that if you aren’t kicked often, it starts with a minor debuff.
“Reduced cooldowns, stacking downwards” so if you’re in a “good” party, then when they surprisepikachu kick you at the end the cooldown is lower.
“Add reporting for kicking” - This is akin FF where they investigate if someone is really, really using votekick so often and gets reported for it that often as well. Punishments are rare but deserved.
“Add fixed reasons for kicking plus the above” - People would still select a random category. Better keep it freefill if we’re going to get a report and investigate situation for more deep diving if it was really warranted.
Since the Blizz team downsized, I don’t think they will do the latter two.
Sometimes we even get people demand Blizzard take action according the TOS on the CS forums only to be shown, according this is; isn’t disallowed to be kicked for any or no reason.
If you have a proper suggestion, you may submit it through the ingame feedback box. I also would like to know to see if the suggestion can be improved making it into a better experience for everyone involved.
Since the Blizz team downsized, I don’t think they will do the latter two.
Sometimes we even get people demand Blizzard take action according the TOS on the CS forums only to be shown, according this is; isn’t disallowed to be kicked for any or no reason.
So What you are saying is: The TOS says it is allowed to kick for any or no reason, which is probably in their longer than the whole deserter debuff for kicks is, and we have to live with this abuse.
But when you could just kick a tank that helds you hostage back in the day and get on with your dungeon. You could just report them for harrasment.
But since blizzard downsized and has no time to offer customer support, people just have to suffer the abuse.
I rather have the tank try and take me hostage then being forced out of dungeons because some toxic players abuse a system. I mean the longer i stay and make fun of the tank that keps me hostage i atleast enjoy myselve.
The way i see it is we need to go back to deserter for leaving, and a report option if someone tries to be kicked. i mean it is easy enough if an account gets a certain amount of reports for any thing they can just have AI ban him. It is that simple, this way you can still kick and people that try to get out without the debuff still get punished in time.
Lol that addresses the same thing as always.
Not enough people are complaining yet so it won’t be changed, is literally the base line.
They have all these things in place if people say %$#@ or @#$% a couple of times but fixing a system that is clearly being abused, cause i have seen multiple posts about it on these forums and others, is not going to happen.
But hey what if we bring a 78 euro mount to the store i bet that helps keeping people happy.
I stopped playing this game half way through BFA cause stuff like this happened all the time. Friends said it got better, but nothing is farther from the truth.
add a simple report button for people that don’t do the content.
Let an AI coun’t report flags for accounts.
Automate an increasing penalty the more times you get reported and kicked.
Let the AI track ho much people report.
Punish people who Report more frequent than the average by a certain margin.
Yes probably people will abuse it to, but at least you won’t get unfair debuffs when it happens to you once.
And the whole thing where people say you can easily do something else is just stupid, i have like 1.5 to 2 hours to game a day, if i wanna run dungeons i don’t want to be stuck behind a debuff.
This stuff is not a problem in other MMO’s that i play. Only in Wow cause they got rid of all the staff that helps with reports and bans . The whole customerservice of this game fell flat on its face