Yes? I never said they did that where did I say that was the case when you have 5 or 8 people going in a as a group you’re decimating the other players chances at loot? when most of them are heroic geared.
So they didnt manipulate the group then, they just all queued together? Which is allowed by the system.
Did you add a bit of “artistic flair” to your story?
Manipulating the loot system by needing on items not required and passing it to group members is manipulation.
/troll.
Then this isn’t true.
There’s no different between 5-8 people needing an item and trading it to 1 person and 5-8 people needing an item and keeping it for themselves.
Thats not what you said.
You said
Still manipulation when they’re not there for intended purposes.
But go keep going.
Not what you said and also “not required” is not for you to decide.
What is the intended purpose of LFR?
Go need on all those items you don’t need then, be a crappy human, I’ll make sure I need against you for the sake of others.
Its not for you to decide who gets what loot though is it?
Have blizzard bestowed this power on you?
Cant you kick people out? Just kick them until you have only 1 (your friend) 2-handed user or other shenanigans like that.
Sure. But fact is that anyone that claims that there is some perfect system out there we still need to discover is delusional.
PL had its issues. But it had less issues than the alternatives. Making it the best system overall. DONE. 
And dont compare PL with GL. When PL was the norm we did not see people complaining like we do now. They still complained that people traded items and they did not get it (buhuu… tears of sadness…), except now its literally back to ninja loot style WotlK with needing stuff even if its not for your roll.
So NO. PL does not have the same AMMOUNT of problems GL has.
So dont Meh me… 
You know im right.
Honestly until blizzard add another method of acquiring lfr mog that isn’t specifically your tier set they’re going to have to deal with people needing in LFR on stuff they’re not personally going to use as an upgrade.
If this is what’s required to gear up at a sensible rate then this is what people should do. Blame the system, not the player.
Their is a option for MOG rolling the issue is people are still being able to need roll on items that are ilvl 440 when equipped with a 476
As an example I can need roll on cloth shoulders in LFR in igra while wearing heroic tier shoulders, the system itself needs fixed.
Back to PL and leave it there. Never change it again.
DONE.
I’ll be honest when you start presenting your opinion as fact my eyes glaze over.
There’s a place for PL as it is, LFR is probably that place, but dismissing the state of weapon / class locked item drops under PL as a none issue isn’t something I’m willing to do.
That i don’t need them is not for you to decide. Or you checked my mog collection for example?
Because i press “need” on items in a videogame.
That’s what makes a crappy human to you? I sincerely hope you are 12.
Okay? Is this supposed to offend anyone? I press need on what i want, and if i lose it so be it.
I will survive, unlike you apparently.
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I just want to clarify I have no issues with GL for normal + its LFR I have the problem, So people coming in here spewing comments about N H M / M+ are ignored because that has nothing to do with my entire post.
But yet again someone will probably send me a biography on how I’m dumb and wrong and a snowflake.
Mog rolling requires nobody to roll need, which as LFR as a revolving door system that actively places you with new people every week is never going to happen. The alternative is to wait two expansions for blizzard to finally add solo queue lfr to the respective raid.
Honestly they should just make it so xmog of lower difficulties is awarded from looting higher ones.
We thought about doing something like this early in the season, except in reverse. Doing ‘LFR splits’ with mains and alts to help the mythic team get their tier sets. We didn’t do it in the end because it would have taken too much organisation for too small gain, but there’s nothing in the ToS that says people can’t do it. If they want to put in the time and effort just for the sake of LFR loot, good luck to them.