I left a SS

so ive waited around 30 minutes for a game, had the classic 3 melees 1 caster, be being the caster so a tons f interrupts on me, felt like i was doing decent ccs, and somewhat low dmg, but i was always dying and getting trained

i was idd losing all rounds, and when the retri was keyboard turning wings and i blastwave him away, my rdruid just vortex him back on me, so i just decided that i would have left, even if it costed all my points.
just wanted to put it out there, no matter what the game penalty would have been, i would have left, deserter of 1 week? i would have left, lose all points ? i would have left.
as a caster being trained by melees with endless interrupts, the moment anyone in my team steps in and basically griefs me, im out. id rather die, 1v3, than MAYBE win it 3v3 in a 10 minutes cannot cast anything game like those.

so eyah, u wanna play SS ? just play some a melee class, way more relaxing, u just go in, and do your thing.

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I just had SS as warrior against 3 ranged, felt the same way.
But melee are more I guess.
btw I never played before fury warrior, I never knew we have so simple spec, I’m literally spaming Bloodthirst + Rampage, can just spam those 2 buttons at same time, Odyns fury on cd and when need to heal up Impending victory.
Charge, Hamstring,Intervene I made macro on 1 button.
I played more ranged before, its crazy how easy is fury :smiley:

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You should find a partner for 2v2 or 3v3. A lot more relaxing and rewarding. Was lots of people searching and willing to try a few games at the beginning of the season. Don’t know if it’s the same now though.

no, bg and wpvp are relaxing and fun, ive played this game since 1.12, never once i thought arena was much fun at all, and if it was any fun, it wasn’t as fun as NORMAL PVP
arena was introduced during tbc, and because it had COOL NUMBERS saying how good little boy u r, everyone decided that was the most competitive enviroment, fastforward years, and now most things are expected to be balanced around 3v3, and that is the reason, the whole pvp scene has been a joke for more than a decade.

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´there is a reason why soloq is getting more people premade groups sucks andu know it

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Gonna give you a slightly different pov
You play melee
Sit in roots, stuns, poly most of the game
And when you do connect , caster use their defensive or healer use a CD and picks them up

It can seem troll when you are a caster with two mongo bungo melee on you, but I promise sometimes it really sucks if the caster is good

I never want to get into another lobby with an arms warrior and enhance as SP.

sit sheep? assuming enemy cast sheep? and it doesn’t get dispelled, or reversed if on one of your teammates ;)?

That’s a lot of if but ands right there

below 2400 (even 3000) indeed melee is much more favorable. Usually you just zugzug and the team with caster dd (if its not a demo lock) lose. Also its a pretty common healers are just very bad as they cant press their buttons and they eat every cc running in melee.

Mage is actually good against 2 melee. You will have to make a different talent set for kiting melees. For instance replace shimmer with normal blink so you remove their stuns, play displacement, freezing cold. Cast poly on warrior, get reflected, it’s fine.
They shouldn’t be able to completely run you over if you try to counter them.

That’s very childish, mate, come on… get a grip.

So if your team mate trolls you (even though probably it was unintentional), you’d be ready to take a 1 week deserter debuff to prove what exactly? Do other people have such control over you?

Just live with it. S**t happens. Suck it up and go on. Don’t you have a youtube channel? (if you’re the same guy - Nakamura) Is that what you want your viewers to see - that you’re acting like a child. Come on… you can do better than that

they don’t have any control, just played it out of boredom, im good for a month or 2 without touching that game mode

didn’t think anyone knew about my youtube channel lol

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Can somewhat understand. I played a random SS with 3x melees and 1x lock. Every single round the melees would just tunnel the lock and there was no counterplay from either healer (was actually a glad paladin because holy is so bad) or his team mates. why even allow games like this to start ? stupid

Someone have finally said it… Finally … and i was thinking im the only one…

Big ups man.

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The most fun you can have is to play with the zug not against it. Had yesterday a few good games without only meeles and managed to push some.
At around 2.7k mmr i go smashed to under 2.3k. Why? Because Im to bad to win against a lobby with double ret, one warrior and double cringeweaver… sorry i ment to say fistweaver.
SS is in my many years of PvP the classical two sides of a coin thing: You get at least to q, as long as u aint a healer u get rating shuffed down ur throat no matter how bad you are, but at the same time its rng if the lobby is good, ppl are beyond toxic and you have times where u wait 45 mins just for some r1 to leave once the gate opens.

At the same time, try finding a solid team to push glad. No1 will wanna q with u if u aint one of the fotm classes/specs.
So, SS is kind of dumb and free rating, but at the same time you can at least q. For that we gotta be thankful, PvP is just a minigame for blizzard and they dont care about it too much.
Take balancing as an example. Disc is the highest rated healer in ever bracket above 2400. Shaman was rising up towards it. They nerf sham healing and buff disc for absolute no reason.

i find playing caster with the amount of lining fake casting interrupts and cc extremely annoying, specially when you sheep a shapeshifting druid and your dh just eyebeam everything and then OMG MAGE LOW DMG ZUG ZUG
most melee classes just go in and try to deal as much dmg as possible, even if they bnreak ring, even if they bring db, even if they break sheep
while you start the game like "db sheep healer, fake the sheep, hunter interrupts you, proc precognition, cast sheep, druid shift in form, icy nova, ring around him, he moves, so you go there and blastwave him into the ring, cast burst, fake because you get kicked, he doesn’t use kick, cast burst, fake again, he doesn’t kick, sheep the druid on the ring that still has 4 sec, but fake it, and you dodge the interrupt, cast the sheep on the druid in ring (if he not shapeshifted) and so on and so on, 0 dmg, and this is assuming people don’t stun you insted of interrupt, you are just sitting there waiting for enemies to throw everything at you while being useless, and the 1-2 times you land sheeps or burst, your priest leaps you off rune of power, vortex knockbacks off you, or your zugzug dps just bladestorm eyebeam or grabby hands your ring on 2 people just to flex his dmg meter and shove it in your face because your damage is bad

then you have games where, you db sheep healer, the zugzug dps ignore you, you cast your full burst and you kill something because nobody is watching you
“OMG MAGE OP, HE KILLED ME IN 5 SECONDS”
Okay folks, name, 1 expansion, where a caster, couldn’t kill you in 5 seconds of free casting, i can assure you, there isn’t. i could do this in each and every expansion, the only difference is that in modern wow, the uptime of melees, and the amount of ccs, mobility and interrupt have reached crazy level, EVEN FOR A 1V1. If im 1v1 a dh, a hunter, or a demo, i can NEVER cast a spell if they are playing correctly, never, now pair them in 2, and expect me to CC HEALER, precast evocation 7 seconds, cast surge, 2 seconds, touch of the magi, trinket/managem macro, cast missiles with clearcasting proc, presence of mind (stopcast macro) arcane blast, now, if i managed to free cast everything, there is a 50% chance, that someone dies from this, if i crit, if i don’t, im gonna have to wait, the cooldowns, and that enemies ignore me, and that i cc the healer again.
it is just beyond frustrating to pull off in arena, where you can’t just “okay, i got no cds, ill just kite this to narnia, or knock them off LM, or glider away”

not to mention how even if everything goes according to plan, there is line of sight to consider, if they tunnel your healer, and your healer keeps going circles around a pillar, you can forget playing. What you gonna do, go mele vs them ? i found myself wishpering my healer to PLEASE, DON’T GO ROUND PILLAR IN CIRCLES, you takes the SAME DMG from dh and war, and i can’t do ANYTHING to help you, save, ring of frost in your path. i cannot walk up to them to take dmg asw so you can’t heal both of us.

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well a big part of it is learning to handle your own tilt bro, u gotta be constructive and not blame like this

I couldnt agree more to this.
I’ve been saying the same thing over n over n over again, and ev1 rating shamed me or get gud replies…
This sentence hit me up in the feelings " the only difference is that in modern wow, the uptime of melees,"
Caster’s aint feel like “casting” nowadays… idk why people never notice or mention this… but the “best casters” are the ones that literally NEVER EVER sit to cast.
ELEMENTAL SHAMAN IS OP ZOMG Ye , why? have you (yes you melee zugzug) thought about why ele is so annoying to face especially if he knows how 2 kite?.. CAUSE HE DOESNT cast… and #lavalavlalvalvlalvalva your whole team to 50k dps.

but… but… DEMONOLOGY LOCK IS OP … wait for it… waiiiit… HE DOESNT CAST ASWELL … only cast he has is tyrant , and a demon bs talent that noone will kick it cause they save for tyrant interupts … he has 20 stuns , 20 control cds, and a demon jungle for your … backcave…

In order for “casters” to cast, melee has to get rid of so many gap closers… x2 charges leap AND stormbolt, and ROOT on charge with talent? and spear and reflect… i mean… i remember a time where warrior had to choose between double time and stormbolt…
And before any melee jumps on this, YES if you remove some gap closers from Wars, remove my tons of CC as a mage aswell… i dont need it either!! we are TIRED PLAYING the CC bot, and pray we can kill something cause its forgotten how to rotate through defs.

One last thing also… REMOVE ENTIRELY from all classes the Diablo3 mentality… and that is BUILDER/SPENDER mechanic on ALLLLLLLLL classes… this has ruined the game and made it diablommowow.
I WANT MY FIREBALL & SCORCH TO DO DAMAGE not being a “filler” cosmetic spell that has to be casted in order to give something as a reduce to my comb…
OH and btw… we WOULD love to have MORE damage to our casts… rather to our ICE LANCE… remember? we are casters… but guess what… this cannot be true unless melee’s get rid of the 200 gap closers/interupts/stuns.
I LOVED the days when fire mage for example was FUN… was scary if i pulled a fireball, IGNITE and dots WERE good, LIVING bomb was insane it did SOMETHING it didnt HEAL the target like it is today, and NO, being a COMBUSTION cannon bot that spams pyro to land a kill and then farm the cd again IS NOT FUN… its TRASH design.

End of my rant sorry for my very bad english not my 1st lang. Peace

actually casters > melee right now. But I guess because of demo and ele most of the time

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