So Blizzard is giving US servers a shiny new PvP/RP mega server plus a PvE one, while EU only gets a single PvE realm. Apparently that’s what EU “should” be like, since there are “no PvP players” here? The joke is, Blizzard never even tried to fix faction balance on EU servers. They could’ve merged Firemaw and Gehennas ages ago—but nah, easier to blame the players.
I’m not here to rehash every old debate, but just notice how often Blizzard has ignored the EU server region:
Patch & Expansion Launches: Always timed for US first. For EU it’s basically, “midnight, deal with it.”
Server Performance: Every major lag fest (fresh launches, dungeon queue bugs, anniversary events)—EU servers always struggle harder than US. Just check the forums.
Server Merges: US gets multiple realms for different playstyles. EU? “One PvE is enough. Not worth the cost.”
It’s almost impressive how consistently they downplay the EU server region. And the funniest part? We keep accepting it without much pushback.
TBH, I was really excited about a lot of things in MoP, and even WoD had its moments for me. But stuff like this just doesn’t make sense. Maybe it’s just me, I don’t know—but honestly, it feels like Blizzard is killing my vibe
two things blizz have NEVER cared about from the start
EU and PvP
PvP is kinda like a thorn in their side they don’t want but feel like they HAVE to have, but without it the game would have been dead on arrival
Patches EU gets them 1 day later. Expansion launches are simultaneous taken timezones in mind.
Both suffer equally as bad, you can take a look over there too when they got issues.
The numbers don’t lie, the EU population prefers mono factions. The realms themselves were actually managed from the start with realm locks but it didn’t help as one side still eventually domineered the other.
First one:
Sure, Blizzard calls it a “simultaneous launch”, but let’s be real—3–4 PM in the US vs. 00:00 in EU isn’t fair at all. It basically prioritizes US players, since EU always gets stuck with late-night launches for raids and expansions. Do you agree with me on that?
Second one:
I doubt EU ever gets the same level of attention. For example, the dungeon queue bug during the fresh anniversary was fixed way faster on US servers than EU. And there were other launches too (can’t recall every detail), but I definitely remember EU feeling left behind.
Third one:
Like I said earlier—has Blizzard ever taken a single step to even try balancing factions on EU servers during MoP, Cata, or WotLK? Not really.
It is. The developers are based in the US and frankly, the first few hotfixes are really H-O-T as weird issues can creep up requiring their full attention.
As you noted yourself, whatever gets fixed there first will get rolled out to the rest.
We used in the very far past to have a bug report forum. This was shuttered in favour of concentrating it on the US forums because see paragraph 1: Developers being based there. Even if you submit bug reports through the ingame tab it would end up at the same place anyway.
The forums are a vocal minority as well and does not represent numbers and statistics, which the developers have access towards to make any of such decisions. A simple example is the PVP debuff that a vocal minority advocated for and then complain afterwards on getting hit by
Remember that targeted harassment is not allowed on our forums. If you got time to write a post better make it constructive instead of using one-line ad hominems when you run out of arguments.
First: Excuses, excuses If it was really about the developers, they could launch in the morning or noon so EU got a fair time, right? But no—of course not. It always has to be prime time for US.
And don’t get me wrong, I totally understand—it’s about money and target players. That’s fine. But please don’t dress it up as a ‘developer issue.’ The timing could be better for EU, it’s just not the priority. And again, I get that—so no worries Just don’t make it sound like anything else.
But seriously, the reason EU doesn’t get a PvP mega server isn’t because there’s “no balanced server” or bad players—it’s Blizzard’s fault for never even trying. Remember fresh anniversary? No faction balance would’ve existed if Blizzard hadn’t locked Horde queues (Spineshatter) at the start. At this point, Blizzard just doesn’t seem to care about EU servers—or about saving a big pile of gold
that makes no sense sorry. these people clearly speak english too no? they can read the american website so they can read ours too. bugs aren’t time sensitive either, we all know that tickets go unanswered for ages.
so since there are no other logical reasons we as EU players can only come to the conclusion we’re not worth the effort to them.
It seems to me that these are the same far-fetched reasons that are used to justify the Japanese not communicating in English about FF14. Yes, Blizzard is American, but they are bringing their product to the EU, just as Square Enix is in Japan but then sells its product to the rest of the world. So why should we, as consumers like the Americans, receive second-class treatment? Do I pay less than Americans? I don’t think so.
There are no german CS anymore, there are no german information about the realm closures (why should any non english speaking player want to know about this?), no EU/language specific CMs anymore who could forward isuses of the EU players.
Most of the EU CS team seems to be gone, too.
they don´t care about EU. They just want the sub, mount, pets, xpac, … money.
Edit: Oh… and they even forgot to rename the Cataclysm General Forum (at least in the german language forum )
So like Flamegor PvP EU-Ru with 24:76 doesn’t exist huh? Also Gehennas and Firemaw grew this much because these two had been de-facto largest PvE realms, not because people there enjoyed wPvP. Quite the contrary, forcefully merging them will only cause new migrations and loss of subscribers in process.
Both suffer equally as bad, you can take a look over there too when they got issues.
Nonsense Saneko. US haven’t had server issues anything like what EU has had with Firemaw since MoP launch and even Cata pre-patch. We had the Stormwind lag and disconnects in pre-patch. MoP launch itself was busted for many days with lag, and then we hit the layering bug which capped us to 3 layers which took a long time to get fixed (and was followed by more Stormwind lag).
I’m not really of the argument that Blizz favours the US over EU, but come on, let’s call out the blatent glazing.
That was just an example—I never said Blizzard should have done it, only that they could have if players were fine with it. I was fine with it, at least. Balancing factions is essential to keeping a PvP server alive. As I mentioned earlier, Spineshatter fresh anniversary wouldn’t even be a PvP server today if they hadn’t closed off Horde at first. Supporting a PvP server’s growth is something we’ve never really had, and something we should have. So blaming players for not choosing a PvP server is nonsense when nothing was done to help those servers thrive.
And let’s be real—Firemaw and Gehennas were massive at launch, but the population now isn’t even close to what it was back in TBC. During TBC, at least when I played on Gehennas, Alliance still made up around 20% of the server. So no, they didn’t grow because they were “PvE realms.” They grew when both factions were still there—and the population back then, with both sides existing, was way bigger than what we see now with them basically turned into PvE servers.
*modern Blizzard isn’t interested in even pretending to ignore us.
I won’t fault you for trying to defend your green text, but let’s not act as if giving us our own Bug Report forum would be asking for anything more than for a Dev/Community Manager to change two letters in a URL.
I feel like a minority after reading at least 5 forum posts recently due to the mega-server announcement and maybe there are people like me. On the subjects of me supporting the opposite;
Layering is really good, and more should be added on mega-servers.
PvP servers are basically PvE in EU because you guys proved it over-time by going mono-faction.
Waah my name is actually gone waah
WPvP is pointless and a hindrance ex: My paladin kept getting ganked by rogues, they are camping, I keep dying etc.
I personally chose a mono-faction because that’s all there is to choose. If there is not a single balanced server then obviously to find more RBG’s, Raids and Arena’s its a no-brainer to go to Gehennas or Firemaw rather than go to a 400 v 400 server that is considered “populated balanced server”. The developers should at the very least, REGARDLESS if EU has been a mono-faction or not, bring a faction balanced system to a new PvP server. Just like what they are doing with NA.
The game in a sense should feel alive, and creating a new destination, I personally don’t mind it (even though there is no new server but just Mirage Raceway that could change its name eventually).
If it was really about the developers, they could launch in the morning or noon so EU got a fair time, right? But no—of course not. It always has to be prime time for US.
Just don’t make it sound like anything else.
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