I’m playing against a healer who enters arena, pulls a pet which does absurd AoE damage, coupled with root totem, snare totem, direct snare. Then they have interrupt, grounding totem absorbing spells behind a wall, purges and dispells
And then, the same healer does zero hardcasts
I’m playing double dps - ele/sp. I’d like for genuine advice on how to make pressure on Resto shaman teams, but I’m really struggling.
interrupt/silence him 2x shackle + mindgames
some shamans also have natures guardian talented and get oneshottet by priests
however double caster deserves to loose
R Shaman teams are probably the most difficult for you. You have to kill Healing Tide for sure as there is that PvP talent making it a really strong CD. Overall ask your partner to tank some Interrupts for you before your go otherwise landing anything on him will be a nightmare.
It dépend on your comp and the comp against you but. In general purge earth shield as much as you can, kill tide whenever he drop it and then pressure the shaman à sluch as possible.
They will have to cast at some point if you do dmg on both target and he has no hots/totem to do the job.
And also he can’t play offensive if he is on pressure.
Pretty much this. I play Ele/R Druid myself and I ask Druid to push for clones to tank interrupts for me so I can actually spread Flame Shocks and deal damage. Overall I usually hit his partner and whenever Shaman leaves the pillar to heal I swap on him and drop both low.
Overall I tried Ele/SP early season because it was great in season one but since meta is so fast Chains of Devastation is useless and Ele does’t work with as many dps specs. Probably the best 2x dps comp for Ele is Ele/Destru. For you guys would be better if one of you switches to healer probably.
We have a hard time to put pressure, because of the insanely high damage of DPS, and VERY disruptive nature of any DPS combined with a Resto shaman. We’re trying to survive most of the time, before we’re able to counter attack. And now the nerfs made on Necro (which I think are justified, ofc), gutted our survability even harder.
We will not switch comps or roles. I think we actually do amazing as SP/Ele, but against resto shaman is 90% a loss. They have way too many tools, both against caster, as well as helpful ways to slow us down if we miraculouly open a gap against melee.
I’ll try to pay more attention to tide. I’ve already been purging the Hots, but it makes no impact. Usually, shamans are able to keep their mates alive very easily with Riptide/Totem - and if that fails, there’s the other CDs
how can his healing tide totem heal 100k against 2x dps? you have to kill it instantly.
also purge riptide lol. you are 2 purge specs. Especially as SP you have to spam purge riptide and ES.
also shaman dies in stun silence stormkeeper combo pretty fast too.
because double caster is so strong in 2s kappa
sp rshaman is way better but sp ele can easily make it work. you guys can survive for a very long time and do insane on demand burst.
Could he use his earth ele too tank the rsham one?
I always try too pet taunt it and send it too nirvana, also root and slow it
Most games i play, i just peel the first min off the game try too avoid any damage that happens because it seems like player run in and pop every cd in the game and try too catch a fast win, and have nothing left later
I mean we all face that one Ret that burst and Bubble a root or a Ice trap his healer could easy dispell
This is one of our mistakes, so as I’ve said above, that’s something we wil try to pay more attention to. It may still be hard due to my limited mobility, and if the rshaman puts in out of los
I do purge it, but it makes no impact, and also bear in mind that we’re playing without a healr, on a meta where damage is insanely high. I can’t deplete my whole mana bar just to purge, and then have nothing to heal up if disperse is on CD
It doesn’t - especially on the MMR we’re hoveing around. And as I’ve said, Rshaman with almost enything, is VERY disruptive in 2s against two casters. We’re playing against at least two interrupts, grounding totem (which can be put and works out of LoS), and another multitude of CCs coupled with high damage from the Shaman’s mate, which is most of the time Arms warrior, or DK, or DH, or WW
We do survive for long - but not that much anymore, because damage has ramped up quite a bit since Season 1, and survabilty provided by necro has been nerfed
Yep, we started doing it
Oh, I actually hadn’t thought about it when I’m playing on my hunter! Thank you!
yes but against 2 dps it should not stay for long. You basically cant outdmg the totem so keep an eye on that.
rshaman has to cast at one point if you spam purge
most dps target you anyway dont they?
if they play rshaman/melee
you want to drag the melee open, stun dps silence shaman into hex so rshaman cant kick or ground. stormkeeper voidform (with vampric embrace) and you get atleast one trinket. below 2k often two trinkets.
thats why you need to use your instant cc on him. if your ele tries to randomly cast hex on rshaman it you fall back with all the kicks and grounds.
Yes, the issue is that when Shaman has to cast, a single healing surge will heal upwards 20-30K
Nope. Somehow there’s a bigger tendency of going after my mate, especially because RShaman has a very hard-counter on my toolkit with the amount of disruption (dispell, interrupt, totem). And if coupled with a DK, even worse, as anti magic shell has a very low CD and provides full immunity to my whole toolkit - plus many other defensives, including that talent where they have a runic shield up all the time providing passive heal - but this is just a specific example.
And don’t forget that on top of that, I cannot simply freecast. I need to peel my mate, or try to, by using mind control, etc., which is easily shut down by the shaman. I’ve tried focusing the shaman, but can’t make enough preassure, and my mate alone against a melee destroying him, can die rather fast if I don’t try to help with with healrs, grips, etc
I’ll try this, thank you.
Melee have a tendency of using many imporant CDs in 2s, with many mistakes, but without much punishment - for example, I’ve had warriors using shout as gap closer
When my mate is able to hex the shaman, I then try to follow up with my CCs - stun, silence, fear, MC
rshaman cant do anything against stun fear silence combo from you. if your ele lasso or stormkeeper at the same time you get many cds by default.
you didnt understand what i was telling you. your mate will never be able to hex a shaman if the shaman is not stupid. thats why you need to silence the shaman for him so he can get a free hex without getting kicked, grounded, LoS or fleshcraft. dont wait for your shaman to get hexes.
2x shackle + mindgames