But the GCD on Soothing Mist is awful and completely ruins the flow of the spec.
It’s really lame.
Most of BFA’s GCD changes were reverted in Shadowlands, yet Mistweavers were ignored once again.
But the GCD on Soothing Mist is awful and completely ruins the flow of the spec.
It’s really lame.
Most of BFA’s GCD changes were reverted in Shadowlands, yet Mistweavers were ignored once again.
I really want to play my mistweaver:
answer: just do so and work around the flaws in the spec.
Id like to play my prot warrior and time all keys on +15 before the end of each M+ season. I could prolly do it all on my DH within a few weeks from now.
Yet i am sticking with my warrior and take it (really slow) atm. Due to work getting in the way of playtime.
I’d like to play my resto shaman too.
The flaws of the spec didn’t exist one expansion ago.
I don’t care about your performance issues. I’m talking about fun here.
The changes made to Mistweaver make it clunky and terrible to play.
Yeah, and neither did the new gameplay changes.
New times, new ways to play.
Its not a performance issue.
Its the same “issues” you have with your mistweaver.
From best m+ tank and stuff to maybe the worst this early in the xpac. (Although warriors age like fine whine:p)
We werent “bottom tier” tanks in S3 and S4 of M+ in BFA.
And here we are, S1 and basically down the list with a skewed community perception due to all the “tier-lists”.
So once again: work around the issues of the 1 ability that is now on the gcd instead of it being off gcd last xpac.
Or just dont play it. Simple as that.
But not playing it over just 1 simple GCD thing is silly imo.
I really want to play my rogue Sub, but I dont know what rotation and macros to use Im good only with Outlaw spec. Its messy when I try Sub. I cant get used to it.
You don’t get it because you don’t play Mistweaver.
It’s not a cooldown used every few minutes here. It’s the main spell I use. It’s a rotational ability that’s supposed to be spammed all game long.
It used to be instant. Now it’s a 1.5 GCD, and it changes everything.
1.5 second gcd. Ow how bad.
You have 2 options: either deal with it. Or dont.
The gcd changes happened with SL release, because Blizzard wanted to change the gameplay and pace of certain abilities.
So i highly doubt they will change it back to what it was just 1,5 month into the expansion.
And according to my mistweaver friend, its not an issue when you get around to the “new way” of playing with it.
And if you cant stand it, time to move on to another class.
What new way? MW received no gameplay change in Shadowlands apart for some lame Yulo’ 3 minute useless CD.
Stop pretending you know people who play the spec.
The new way of playing is the gcd change.
And i dont have to pretend i know anyone that play thr specc, since this “pretended friend” has a battletag, and plays mistweaver monk ever since Mists.
But you cant take that i did some asking around and now tell you it isnt a big deal and you cant take that reply.
So you start telling me i dont know anyone who plays the specc.
Current sub is much simpler to what it used to be, I’ve always been assa on rogue for the same reason as you, but currently getting into sub and it’s way more fun.
I agree, I absolutely LOVE mistweaver but it feels so clunky and poo compared to other heals right now
I know the gcd doesn’t sound like an issue but from 4 expacs of no gcd on soothing mist to there being one it feels weird as hell. It’s a hard hurdle to get over, being able to throw out quick heals was the funnest part of mistweaver imo. It made them feel completely different to other healers too. I mostly played her in m+ and pvp and it was always so much fun. I honestly can’t see myself doing the same. In pve, it’s probably something really easy to get used to, but in pvp it will be really annoying to have to channel that 1.5s.
So I levelled my shammy instead, which instead feels bonkers atm. Can’t wait to do m+ on her.
Imagine what it felt like suddenly having gcd on shapeshifting and no powershifting anymore. Those were the days… and no dhs around to compete with for running flags.
Yeah, but even if it wasnt there for 4 expacs, doesnt change the fact this is a “fix” to change gameplay.
Mistweavers arent the only one with increased GCDs or getting spells put on the GCD when they werent on the GCD list prior to Shadowlands.
Its not a mistweaver thing.
Its a general gameplay change in Shadowlands applied to more specs and abilities.
You either have to play around it, or just do something else.
Its not rocket science to adjust to a gcd change on a spell.
Especially not if the spell itself is a way to cast other spells during the spell itself. Which is pretty neat already.
The GCD was added in BFA.
What Shadowlands did was REMOVE the GCD added on many spells in BFA.
And here, Mistweaver is one of the few exceptions.
You don’t play the spec. Stop annoying me with your worthless opinion.
Powershifting always felt so awesome hehe
I’m happy to play around it, there’s no need to be condescending at me, I was just sharing my opinion and explaining why it felt weird. It’s 4 expansions of the same thing to something that feels clunky in comparison to the fluid spec it used to be.
That is what was so appealing about MW to me, was the fluidity of healing.
MW was never really an overperforming spec (except one or two tiers where they were top), so I don’t really understand the reason for the change honestly.
I will level my MW eventually but it certainly won’t be anytime soon which makes me sad.
Yeah that’s true, I have a ww monk and fluidity was always monk’s forte and a huge fun factor in playing it.
It’s true that more specs should be made less clunky rather than adding to that.
Yeah and mistweavers and their spells arent the only ones with “removed gcds” or addition to it.
It happened to all speccs.
Its Blizzards way to slow down combat a bit, which you have been told countless times already.
I dont have to play a specc to discuss gameplay changes made for the game and the general interest.
Once again, you arent the only one who did get hit by the changes.
And finally: general discussion forum, i can post the things i want.
This isnt your personal echo chamber. (Honestly, can people stop with this attitude already?)
Where is the condescending part?
I just wanted to make clear adjusting to gameplay changes like gcd changes / additions / changes to spells is generally not that hard if you know the specc.
Warrior got talents shifted around, changing the overall gameplay aswell.
Some people left the class because of it, and others embraced it and know how to play with it.
Neither do i, but like i said before: we seen alot of gcd changes in BFA / Shadowlands and its a part of Blizzards new way of changing combat.
And it really seems to be hit and miss considering specs and abilities.
Which is a shame.
But not playing a spec you enjoy so dearly over “just 1 ability” sounds a bit silly to me.
Because you can certainly make it work with the “annoying” change.
It’s not a situational ability or a cooldown. It’s the MAIN spell the entire spec is built around.
The general interest is all Mistweavers changing class because it’s boring and clunky?
Good to know.
Agree, remove gcd, bring back chi, interrupt for mw, and dematerialize