I know there are many players who enjoy playing casually, and that’s fine.
But I’m not one of them.
My teammates and I are coming back to WoW in Shadowlands, and our goal will be to reach at least 2400 rating in 3v3.
THE PROBLEM.
With that kind of goal, I don’t have the “choice” to pass on a permanent, passive 20% stun reduction with no internal cooldown. There’s just no way.
If you don’t think one single ability can be such a huge game changer, all you need to do is just scroll down the Arena Ladder.
Or you can have fun with this little tool: https://banishsoul.com/class-races/shaman
(For similar reasons, there’s no way I’m not picking Venthyr with their conduit that grants a permanent 20% reduction to interrupt duration.)
The orc racial is so incredibly busted compared to what others offer.
It’s honestly laughable to compare orcs to their draenor brethren - the mag’har racials are among the worst in the game, although not quite as bad as the Nightborne ones.
THE SOLUTION IS SIMPLE.
You can please both the casual and competitive crowds with one simple change:
••> Disable all racial abilities in ranked PvP and Mythic difficulty.
This change will allow competitive players to pick their race purely because of the looks and feels, and it won’t affect casual players because it’ll only affect parts of the game they rarely partake in.
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There’s a even easier option
Just remove racials already, just give races a aesthetical and gimmicks that fit the race.
Racials don’t need to provide power benefits to be interesting. And the option to simple play whatever we want should be realistically a goal.
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I honestly would be fine with this, but if I’m going to make a serious suggestion on the forums, I need to take into account what the majority of players want.
And the majority of players, I believe, don’t want their racial abilities taken away from them. Which is why I opted for the compromise of only removing them from highly competitive content.
No need to remove racials…
Remove weird races such as Panda’s as Vulpera… they don’t belong here.
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Yep, for pvp you really have no choice but to go human or orc, if you are really serious about it that is.
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While I do get outright removing them would feel extreme at the same time feel like most racials have 0 gameplay element to them
I would be interested in the numbers tho, I’ve seen people circling the idea of removing the racials and I haven’t seen many really fight it. But I suspose it’s hard to capture a audiences opinons when very few of them use the forums to begin with
Vulepera and pandas don’t change the fact I do 2k DPS less then a other warrior because I’m a nightborne
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Vulpera have neat racials. The bag of tricks can either give you a quick heal or you can yeet it with its great range at that pesky enemy player that escaped with 1% health!
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It’s a good attempt at defending there
But no I’m afraid vulpera racials from a min maxing view are terrible. Same with nightborne.
They gave nightborne multiple physical damage options but made its racial only increase spell damage 
I mean… if we’re talking min/max it’s really not the end of the world…
PvP wise though i can understand.
Said the dead elf walking ¬_¬
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Behold our glorious 1% fire resist!
And our nose for trouble racial! Can take a full chaos bolt crit to the snout and come out laughing!
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Meanwhile, Night elves can completely dodge the chaos bolt, or the polymorph, or anything really.
Shadowmeld is another incredibly busted racial in arena, especially as a healer: dodge CC chains and instantly start drinking to get mana back.
Poor worgens never had a chance.
I have 3 rogues - an UD, BE and a Vulpera and well lets just say they are almost all useless racial wise except in certain niche situations.
I only wish I am on my UD in a disc/rogue mirror where I can wotf the initial cheapshot fear rather than wait a year for the other rogue to open.
I only wish I am on my BE when that lovely divine favor dispel occurs for me to kick that heal they didn’t expect.
And I only wish I am on my vulpera when I have 1% hp and need a heal to win a 1v1/restealth which only happens when boosting people.
If cross-play was enabled I would instantly move my main to allaince for either meld or human depending on spec they are so broken. I’ve been tempted for a while to move my UD to orc but I just don’t want to 
But yes, as a racial its basically human, NE and orc and anything else is a little niche or entirely useless.
I vote replacing combat related racials with fun ones.
I love my caravan and my bag is always full to max even with my extra vulpera bag space so im glad I have it.
But fire resistance? Nah don’t care.
Although I would miss my falcon punch on my kul tiran…
Maybe racials can stay after all
Vulpera Rogues are the only Rogues that can heal others!
Alternatively Blizz can stop messing around with arenas and pvp in general.
The situation is so pathethic, that the racial is the least of my issues.
To be honnest i do like racials and i am definitevely not the casual player. Ofc it causes balance issues in the top arena bracket… but thats the only place when it can cause issues. Its not problem in mythic raids at all, its not the problem in mythic+ pushing whatsover… yea MDI players stacks classes for speed runs… how many players plays speed runs, almost no one… just take off the game another unique piece of utility, becouse someone has personal preference , to be the best ranked and handsome gamer in the WoW seems pitty to me sorry.
WHAT? So everytime I see an Orc Monk, it is because the person only abuse the racials and has absolutely no love for the animations? Oh my, who would’ve guessed? 
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I’m struggling to see the issue with this? 0_o