I don’t want to have to do Mythic + or raiding to be relevant in PvP… I don’t want to have to grind AP and essences to be relevant in PvP.
I just…
want…
to…
P V P…
I want to PvP, receive gear relevant to PvP and be Bis for PvP, then PVP.
It’s plain, it’s simple… P to the v to the P.
Bring back god damn vendors.
Make Arathi Basic great again.
Edit:
This is not an ‘I feel entitled’ post…
This is not a ‘Classic over BFA post’…
This is not a ‘PvP players are better than PvE players post’…
I like PvE, I just prefer PvP… Where PvP may be some raiders ‘Other things to do while locked out/waiting for weekly reset’… Maybe cast your mind and think that to someone who enjoys PvP over PvE ‘PvE is another thing to do when waiting for arena friends/PvP groups… or a break from PvP’…
I’m not speaking to force Blizzard into making WoW a PvP game… This is also my personal opinion… Simply just implementing PvP vendors, PvP gear that scaled and is BIS for PvP but not PvE & re introducing a fair system like resilience, the PvP scene would not be in perfect state but it would be much much more enjoyable to play even without the arguments of ‘Class Unpruning’.
ah yes the old days of pvp when you would pug to saurfang just to have DBW ninja-looted by someone and then have to go through the entire pug process again next week in hope that nobody ninja-loots it if it even drops until you actually decide to do it yourself good old days of pvp amirite
I spent years in a pvp server and I had a blast, my experience has been drastically changed since they added phasing and removed the vendors.
And I made so many friends in the PvP community, they all call out for return of pvp vendors and resilience.
Yeah, I agree with OP on this. I dont pvp much myself at all, but I sure believe that people who PvP should get appropriate and strong gear equivalent of PvErs PvE gear. In other words there should be 2 types of gear imho. Credit where credit is due.
You do realise in 99.999999% of video games there is a campaign… then a multiplayer right? The same game but also 2 totally different gameplays split to make each aspect of the game fun and fair.
I do complete the ‘rest of the content’… not to mythic standard mainly because I don’t have time & the pure RNG bs that is poisoning PvP is unbelievable.
In a nutshell… I should not have to PvE to be able to compete in PvP, PvP should be a completely different entity of the game to offer a fun & different type of gameplay with unique and different rewards.
Would you study accounting to become an engineer? no, you wouldn’t you bargain bucket so pipe down.
Basically if what Rompuche said happened… you’d be crying because you’d be wet carrot cake at PvP and unable to compete in end game PvE because of this.
PvP is (was) also a core part of the game, in fact Alliance vs Horde & PvP was an extremely important core factor to this game.
Why would anyone pay 50 euro for an expansion( or more) And then a sub of around 10-13 ish a month. To do the exact same arena’s and battlegrounds for 15 years when there are Magnificent raids and Mythics out there to do?
So Enjoy your PVP and if you really want to get good you need the gear from the content you payed for. You have to do the content, the story, if you’re just in it for the PVP you’re playing the wrong game.
Right now EVERYONE can do PVP, Just change a few azerite traits( please remove this system) Change a few trinkets and go. No need to farm an entire massive gear set just to do something as trivial as Arena’s
And if thats all you want to do, then do it, you are free to do so, but accept you wont get the gear you want.
I was really looking forward to play arena but right now I’m just incredible disappointed. The PvP gearing is horrible and the powercreep between good and bad gear is so insane that it kills every competitive aspect of the game (just look at corruptions because ilvl, essences and azerith gear wasn’t enough already). It’s a shame, in order to even play PvP semi competitive you need to put in so much effort into PvE firstly that it’s not worth it after all. What’s the point of WoW PvP when we have actually good PvP games out there which release patches far more often, reward actively improving instead of just putting time into the game and just allow you to join into games and have a fun PvP experience?
PvP community might be a bit niche in WoW but I bet it’s still more people than mythic raiders, yet the PvP community is getting ignored for most of the time.
You are playing the wrong game, WoW no longer provides that choice for the player base. All they want is to see you farm and do every bit of crap content they get paid to create.
Move on, i know i did.
Fortnite, Call of Duty, Fifa… 3 of the top games at the moment… 3 of the top game selling frachises at the moment… all offer the same, repetitive content but are thriving…
The reason? Players enjoy it, they love the competitive side.
Imagine dumping the PvP side of a game & focussing your e-sport towards a PvComputer style gameplay… people would probably drop off that bandwagon rapidly! oh wait…
In my very honest opinion, reaching 2.2k+ in Arena is harder than Mythic+ and raiding etc but no where near as rewarding.
I am simply not saying allow PvP rewards to be the same if not better than PvE rewards… keep your loot and all that… idc.
Simply adopt a system where PvP gear scales higher in PvP instances and/or add a factor like resilience again.
good old days of pvp amirite
