I want your opinion to help me :)

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Hello to all!. With the release of the expansion, I wanted to consider changing my computer. Here I would like your help and opinion.

Currently my configuration is as follows:
-Intel 6700k OC 4200MHz cooled by NOCTUA NH-D15
-16GB DDR4 3200MHz
-SSD M.2 970 1TB
-MSI Trio 2080.
-ASUS ROG PG348Q 3440x1440 100Hz G-Sync monitor.

I have an interface with several addons among the various ElvUI, Weakaura, R.IO, DBM, etc.

Currently in openworld I go to about 70-80fps but the problem is in raids where I also go down to 25-30fps (with details down to level 7)

I have already checked that my cpu does not bottleneck on 2080 but I feel very dissatisfied with this situation (especially in raid) where sometimes it even drops below 20fps and everything clicks.

I was considering a switch to AMD 5900x.

And here is the question. what do you think?

Thank You!

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Your CPU is the ‘weak link’ along with the motherboard (equally culpable) it’s on.

The problem will be how ‘fast’ you can get hold of a 5900X; I would offer that a 5600X will give you a (not quite as) sizeable performance uplift, if a 5900X proves elusive… the 5600X is alleged to be on par with a 10900K, so more than a capable option… add into that lead time that you’re ‘stuck’ with what you have in the meantime.

What should be easier to get primarily, is the motherboard you intend to put the CPU on, whichever CPU you eventually get.

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i upgraded my 6700k in battle for dazar’alor for similar reasons, though not quite that low. your overclock is very conservative, you could most likely bump that up to 4.7ghz. you also may have some problems with ancient weakauras slowing you down, or an old, wonky windows install that doesn’t behave quite right. that could be a good place to start if you’d rather not jump straight to buying something new.

for your use case, i’d probably get a 5600x.

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While the 6700K is not the fastest CPU anymore, there is no way you will drop to 20 FPS in a raid bossfight.
You will drop to the 20s though if you are aoeing a ton of trash in a raid grp.
Most likely it is an addon issue in your case.
Nameplates, Weakauras etc. can drop the fps by quite a lot.

Try without addons and see if that makes a big difference.
If not, check your CPU temps and boost speeds while playing.
If everything is fine and your FPS are still subpar, you can still upgrade to a Ryzen 5000.

PS: is your RAM running at 3200Mhz? Make sure the XMP is loaded or you set it up manually.

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Thanks for the reply.

The CPU is very well cooled (the Noctua NH-D15 with NT-H2 thermal paste are easily comparable to liquid cooling) keeping the cpu at 28 ° in idle and 45-50 under load.
XMP is activated by BIOS (I forgot … as a motherboard I have an ASUS Z170-DELUXE) and the addons I use anyway all those installed (same as WA). Certainly without addons I do more fps (+10 in raid) but I don’t want to give up the weakaura for fps and I still have the economic possibility to change the pc without any kind of problem. Here I need your technical help to understand the performance increase.
Before 2080 I had an Asus Strix 970 sli and I admit that I didn’t gain a lot from this step.
In all of this I forgot to mention that I didn’t put ray tracing on hindsight the FPS literally die.

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Yeah, because especially in raids you are CPU-limited 90% of the time.

I don’t use RT either in WoW, it is just so badly implemented, halves my FPS and it produces microstuttering even with high fps. So it is not an option.

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Thats why i was thinking an upgrade of CPU. The 5900x should provide much more FPS on wow with the same 2080… right?

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Yes it should be quite a noticeable upgrade.

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First things to note if moving from Intel to AMD.

X570 motherboards may not have the required BIOS installed to accept a Ryzen 5000 cpu to work. It’s easier if you already got a Ryzen 2000, 3000 and can flash the BIOS to AGESA 1.0.8.00 or later. If not, then get a motherboard with a flashback BIOS fuction button at the back of the motherboard, aka a CPU’less bios update via USB is the only way around it.

Or you can wait for the Ryzen 5000 ready motherboards to come out later this month with the required BIOS already installed, but any old boards will need flashing beforehand.

Had to flash my bios by USB with my Crosshair VIII Hero as out of box bios wouldn’t boot up with a 5900x. AGESA needed updating.

So something to keep an eye out on if looking for a motherboard right now. Make sure it has no-cpu bios update function, it’s the only way to ensure you can get a system up and running if you don’t have a pre-Ryzen 5000 CPU at hand to flash it.

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Pick a X570 or B550 that can flash a BIOS without a CPU :slight_smile: Some shops also offer BIOS update service.

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Yeah, that’s the only way to do it.

Glad I got a no-cpu flash capable board.

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