If Dragonflight is going to be yet another worst expansion

Definitly not the worst tbh

Umm not if u were around in the times.

MoP caused one of the largest Playerbase bleeds to exist in World of Warcraft.

WoTLK caused Major Issues during its second half as ALOT of people were very unhappy with Trial being introduced and several decisions after that Point.

Catacylsm was Also poorly recieved, as ALOT Of players started Screeching that blizzard werent launching enough content and u had people who sat around in the capitals Insulting and Slating blizzard for the expansion.

Cata, also caused MAJOR Devision because it kept shifting between the hardcore and Casual communities and Repeatively upset both sides.

Heres the fact.

Every expansion has been Slated by the forums. Because the forum is FOR unhappy players to give feedback.

No, it’s fact a streamer said so. Who would lie on a stream…

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Asmongold also said the games downfall was Mid Wrath during Trial of The Crusaders introduction.

He also Slated MoP… and its class Design saying everything was basically broken Overpowered.

comunnity didnt back him on either of those. although at the time, i think ALOT Of people were unhappy with MoP… it caused a MAJOR bleed. Ironically the only time MoP has been this Liked. is Now which is pretty ironic.

well yes, but more then just pruning caused that.

Gearing.
Templates.
GCD Addition.

all also fed into that massively. the game Slaughter WoW PvP in about every way possible.

As far as I can recall MOP actually recovered considerably (in terms of subs) lost by Cata. Not back to Wrath days of 12m but a good recovery. Then WoD went and lost down to lower than Cata. Legion had a good recovery but it’s been downhill ever since.
They stopped with the sub numbers in WoD as it got so bad so harder to tell now.

Even so, MOP is highly regarded by the playerbase in most threads discussing expacs. Hard to define what a good expansion is really. Legion was enjoyed by many but its structural flaws led directly to BFA and SL in terms of systems, grinds and lack of Lore (Legion used up all the interesting characters).

no. MOP did cause a major bleed, the game Defintly picked back up massively. but There is a whole Documentry on MoP actually avaliable to u because the disconnection players had.

People called MoP Racist for depicting Pandas and a Advocate Against China, Players were continously Threatening blizzard with “suing them” for Depicting pandas “poorly”

it was considered a Kunfu Panda Rip off trying to appeal to the Children and that No one wanted this.

MoP Was Poorly recieved MASSIVELY, it was only after timeless isle got dropped among other things that people started raving about the game again.

Also, WoWs only peak of 12million was with the launch of RDF in WoTLK 3.3.5, til first Quatre of Cataclysm,

MoP Launched with 7 million players.

there was More subs at the end of Cata, then there was for MoP Launch.

yes NOW there is.

Because Players have something called Rose Tinted Glasses.

It is common for the WoW community to start saying how amazing the expansion is, After its ended and ur in the middle of the current one, thats ALWAYS Been the case.

People go on about WoWs rotational ability size, yet ignore it reached a point where guide sites were recommending ignoring Certain abilities, due to the size of the abilities, nothing hit hard, so People shorten rotations.

No one acknowledges the fact there was also a Point of MoP where ALOT of people just macro’d their entire rotations into 6 buttons and ignored the DPS Loss from Macroing Cooldowns.

becuase, Players will remember what they LOVED about a expansion after a while, and forget what annoyed them about it.

in PvE.

MoP was a Massive expansion of Macros. people performing REALLLY badly due to using Ridiculous macros cause they couldnt do it properly

and the continous Screech about how bad Ret paladin and Shadow priest was during the expansion.

while having a Story line and Thematic Story that Quite Litterally people Despised.

Nyhm a Major Machinima Artist did a Song about MoP regarding the general opinons of MoP at the time.

GCD addition was in BFA.
Templates were a good thing.
Gearing did get worse, but it wasn’t actually a problem for PvP in Legion since Legion had templates.

Awful class design started in Legion and it hasn’t been repaired 6 years down the road.
Legion is entirely to blame for the destruction of PvP.

i ment from Legion onwards.

it didnt reach its dire state on today with only the pruning. blizzard pretty much continously Drowned it in negative changes.

Today? Today is better than Legion.
We actually got some spells back in Shadowlands, for all its flaws.

BFA was objectively worse because it removed even more spells after Legion, added GCDs to everything, and forced PvP players to get PvE gear and grind AP. I actually skipped the whole thing.

But again, Legion started all of this. Legion removed PvP vendors, Legion pruned 30% of the spellbook, Legion introduced AP into the game.

To read more: Legion was a McDonald's meal

true, but it also at several points of thsi expansion became a Boosting grounds for PvE Players trying to gear xD

Yeah, no,
The pay to win aspect that can of worms opens will ruin the game permanently.

tbf,
I wouldnt care.
If they mess up dragonflight.
i am done.
I am truely 100% done.

Good, it’s nice to see PvE players being forced to play PvP for once.
They had no sympathy for us back when the opposite was current. They would say stuff like: “if you want the best gear, you should engage in all activities”. They didn’t like it very much when this logic came back to bite them.

tbh i’ve never understood where people think games go f2p and remain at the same quality they are now.

if u regard the game bad today. you need to make it 100x Worse to see what it’d be like on a F2P Model.

F2P models, means Strips the game down to 3 people working on the whole project. hiring 6 temporary staff at expansion launchs, Fired them after development. Putting ÂŁ100 on the Box price of said Expansion.

when raid encounters break.

Put the Raids Armour on the store, Problem fixed.

thjats how f2p games function, theres a Reason why Rift went from a game Well recieved, to Absolute Death. and f2p was a Major point in that.

game wont go f2p if DF is bad.

Game will outright Die, this game cannot handle a 3rd Contraversal Expansion. it needs to launch on a Safe. Well practiced ground if they introduce anything wild. Good or bad, the games going to burn realistically. because they cannot afford to launch another Major feature which will devide the playerbase.

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it’d be good.

IF it wasnt PvE Players being boosted rather then actually having to pracitce, get good and perform in the game mode.

What it was, was Just WoW TOken spam buying to buy a R1 player to boost you through content which then led to the Negative impact on Players experience trying to play the game mode normally.

Well at least it took money off PvE players. Still a + in my book.

Well it Did and it didnt.

the players buying em are the Rich kids who Will just buy another 20 tokens it didnt finically dent them realistically, because those PvE players just went onto boosting other Kids in PvE Content to regai nt he money.

boosting is a continous Cycle of People getting rich in both game modes on a System that shouldn exist.

dragonflight is best xpack ever finerly u can hit end game only with crafting stuff or pvp
no more forced M+ endgame

all what wow needs is a RP endgame aswell

Me too

Blizzard win by keep getting moneys from us but getting 3 worst expansions in a row

Keep doing Blizz, but you will get nothing!

DF has the potiental to be the best expansion ever.

its Launched on Basically everything Good thats possible.

  • no borrowed Power.
  • Proper open world Content that provides grinds with good rewards
  • Meaningful proffession choices which generate Actual Rewards.
  • Return of old style talent trees which far more open layouts.
  • It has Dragons. People move Dragons.
  • a Demanded Story arc players have wanted for ages (Dragon isles)
  • New Flight Mechanics which look fun to use.
  • Dragon races… people love dragon races.
  • Actual use of player feedback.

it has the ability. to rank number 1, thats for sure it Can the potiental exists. however, that will Also Require blizzard to not get something Massively wrong.

DF is one controversal experiemnt from Death. and thats just factual, its getting unsafe with the M+ changes bringing old dungeons into the M+ Rotation already.

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