"If there is such a big gap between players 20 item levels apart, it is more likely a skill issue"

he forget convenant/souldbind and legendaire buff

Pala is atm pretty much the worst healer in 2s. I’d even argue pala is worse than MW monk in 2s vs some matchups.

Hpriest on the other hand is above S tier in 2s :grin:

pala is very strong on the lower rating ladder when games are short.
You cannot compare low rating to high rating in this time.
When I log on my pala it just feels like I cannot die

but anyways as I said, as a healer (if you are not terrible) you have an easier time climbing for sure. Mostly because you have more options and you healing out but doesn’t sky rocket in the same way as dps would

yea dude, I got a even a better win rate than you climbing to 1.6k but I am the one blaming gear for not climbing. lol

o’rly?
I reached 1.6k in ilvl 200 gear then stopped to collect gear, since then I have never played 2s again. I have 0 interest in climbing the ladder as I don’t like arena and only play it sometimes as a means to get gear.
You want to rating flame? Look at my total arena games played and yet I played over 2.1k with very little games played, Makes you wonder what is your excuse for being garbage and still just reach duelist in bfa? 2 game play this game.

did that already, now what you want again?
you are a freaking potato that wants to tell other to git gud and think you are so special because you climb on a freaking HP that is easy to play, especially into dbl dps 1 button combos.
Hilarious
So since you tell me to climb on 1.6k in garbanzo gear, I can tell you take your run of the mill enhance shaman and climb on 1.6k in ilvl 200 and let me know how it goes, because as you said gear doesn’t matter.
I finished my 1.6k climb in trash gear already, so now it is your turn.
now git gud, potato

When I climb my alts I never accept 220 or 225 ilvl people at 1400 or 1600 cr but I prefer to take someone 190-200 ilvl. Why? Because if someone is 220 or 226 and is 1400 then there is something wrong with him and if someone is 190-200 and he applies then it means he already got there with such ilvl and he is good so even if we have gear disadvantage he at least won’t make anything stupid.

Do the same guys to these boosted animals and rbg heroes. If Blizzard doesn’t fight boosting we can. If we keep excluding boosted people maybe they will reconsider buying boosts.

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Ion, if you can’t provide an acceptable gameplay to your clients, this is what is called a skill issue. GIT GUD.

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I mean I compare it at 1,8k+ where people got their basics right. At lower rating where people have no clue what they are doing and just smash buttons it doesn’t really show if a spec is good or not.

? I got to 190 with negative win ratio ppl, no conduits, no renown, no enchants, no legendary. Imagine being told to git gud by a 1750 max 2v2. What are you even talking about, you donkey? What do you mean it’s “my turn”? It’s my turn to do something I’ve already done? -500 IQ.

Btw if you reached it with 200 ilvl gear, which I heavily doubt seeing what an ape you are, I still got it with 10 ilvls below you. :slight_smile:

You have never played above 2.1k. Your achievements are from 2010, if you think that this “experience” is even remotely relevant nowadays, BIG YIKES. No duelist ach. Rival max xp in BfA, so probably a 1.8 max there as you have no duelist, hence never reached 2100 in BfA. Try lying harder you little monkey - ook ook.

You mean that hpala which you’ve hidden on check-pvp? I wonder why you’ve hidden it. :thinking: . Let’s see that hpala and check how immortal you are?

Oh yeah since it’s like that, whenever I log my hpriest I insta get 2.2k with 10 games played and one shot everyone with mind games. SUCH A GOOD CLASS.

All in all, you are completely and utterly irrelevant and serve as nothing more than cheap entertainment for the actual arena players on this forum with your whining. But keep blaming gear and classes on your lack of adequacy. And you even turned aggressive in your post which is hilarious btw.

Less time spent on the forums and more practicing in arena, buddy! Keep MALDING though, mad because bad. LOL some of the ppl on this forum calling bad ppl with 600+ more exp than them. (CBA responding to you anymore, losing brain cells every time I read some of your posts).

This is a good logic to follow btw.

It’s out of context, and he was talking about mythic raiding, but that’s all he knows, he’s honor level 6 on his Shaman, and has no alts. The guy shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near PvP.

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Part of it will be down to the fact Ion isn’t gonna get into a interview to give a player a platform to slate the game.

And we know the PvP playerbase would. Ion would be feeding himself to the hounds putting himself in that environment.

He wouldn’t know how to answer anything, it will only get the players more mad and he would be attacked immediately by the playerbase.

I can’t blame him for not opening himself up on that front. But it doesn’t rly make it less true

But if PvP is in the game and it’s third alternative form of progression after M+ and raids it can’t be left how it is. There must be someone competent who at least designs PvP talents. What we saw yesterday’s in new patch notes clearly indicates that people designing new PvP talents have no clue how arenas work and about the current meta. I think that they were designed my people who are not necessarily responsible for PvP. I’m more than sure that PvP balancing could be done just with PvP talents. Simple fix to Fire Mage - nerf Pyrokinesis etc. These guy don’t even try to do PvP balancing well. They drop some out of the blue PvP talent ideas. Judgement PvP talent? What the hell is this? Ret is more than fine and it’s soulbind will be even better in 9.1. Why do you create such broken PvP talents for it? Judgement crap instantly dispels Frost Nova denying Mages ability to kite which is what Mages defence is all about. Seriously it can’t he like that. Hire someone competent if not devs then consultants.

If there is noone who can make an interview with Stoopzz how does it make them look? Like bunch of amateurs dropping random ideas. Who the hell is leading such team? It’s the best argument for the fact that Ion is not able to direct this game if he has no person in the team that can talk reasonably about PvP. If there was no person like that he should at least ask for resources. I know that Talbadar - one of the most insightful and talented players in the history of rated arenas. I can’t believe that even if he works on other position there is no use of his knowledge.

Healingstat and Starship work for esports team. What about them? This can’t be real.

I’d love to agree but PvE changes are just as stupid.

The designs bad in all three content.

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During BFA I took a break and I had a friend who was actively riding and doing M+. When I was talking bad about the game - that all these corruptions are terrible etc. he was defending Blizzard that PvE is fun and it just requires you to do everything. This expansion even he is saying that devs are clueless. Designs are just not fun and boring. There are plenty of things with potential but destroyed with bad execution so you are probably right. Unfortunately it seems that we are treated as “vocal minority” or “toxic players/haters” who are just criticizing devs for no reason why the majority of players don’t. The thing is that this vast majority doesn’t even care about the systems. If they weren’t there the wouldn’t even notice. We - who give feedback - we actually care about the game and want it to be good but devs pride doesn’t allow them to acknowledge how bad SL became. A lot of things they announced and advertised looked good on paper but they ended being absolutely terrible.

Don’t you just love their reply to wowhead regarding the pvp mount? They acknowledge that this season is way harder than previous seasons. We all know why, yet they’re doubling down on it for 9.1.

They bounce from one side to another, but always pick the worst of both parties. Thats why everybody hates whatever they decide to do. Their reasoning is always a mix of being out of the touch, botherline trolling and cheap money grab. Over the years, we had so many different systems with different issues, but holy puck, how hard it is to use the 17 years of exprience and pick the best parts of all the systems and make one decent system?! This isnt about ppl not being satisfied due to too many different opinions. This is just garbage job done by the company.
And like I already said in different topic, making ilvl difference lower would fix most of the gearing issues in both pvp and pve. 184 was starting ilvl, one tier of gear made the geared ppl full 226-230 ilvl. No wonder ppl cant get into the game, when suddenly one tier difference makes ppl one shot you with zero chance to fight back.

Plus, who even are those people who they are supposedly cater to now. I haven’t seen anyone who asked for this gearing system the way it is now, not a single one.

Latelly,i have been seeing good but really good mages,rogues and hunters in skirmish,not being able to win games just because they lack gear.

You can easily spot who is good player arenas,but sadly 197 ilvl vs 220 or 226 or even 213 in some cases is pointless.

I have seen boosted people at 40 k hp getting killed by 2 hand ww monk who was in 204 ilvl gear.

Not everyone at 220 or 226 ilvl earned their gear legit way,but also sometimes you really cant do much even vs boosted people because 226 ilvl balance druid with fire mage (nvm gear) is going to delete you from stealth.By the time GladiatorSA lady warn you about convoke and combustion,you gonna be ded.

Brother,at least you tried and made some progress.

That’s way better than not playing any game at all,and complaining or blaming your partners for every lost game.

You also play affli lock,even tho there are few of them at high ratings,they also play with other high rated people.

They typically took our suggestions with a certain context, ignored the context, conditions and the soup around it, changed it to their own easy and cheap version that suit their liking and threw it in, saying “you asked for it, now pay”.

They intentionally create problems. To hype the playerbase about the next patch with the fixs they wanted.

If they launched a expansion in great state they have nothing to create hype around the releases to pull people back who stop playing.

It’s been the marketing strategy for a very long time.

Tier sets returning isn’t a win.
“Unpruning” isn’t a win.
Return of PvP vendors isn’t a win.

Because they shouldn’t have taken the things out to begin with. All their doing is re-releasing stuff you had as new content to hype you into your next purchase.

It’s common milking tactics.

They have no innovation. No new stuff to give or great ideas. So they pull the game intentionally in ways the players don’t want to then sell the next product by fixing the problem they created.

They string it out for so long because how many people will stick around throughout the problems regardless keep the game afloat in-between.

Legion legendaries. They kept them on RNG cycles for a year and a half give us a vendor. Everyone hypes the game people come back. Yet you ignore they’ve litterally known the players wanted it since beta.

And that’s just one example.

They won’t change their ways. Because the playerbase tolerate it.

Blizzard do it on purpose. It’s a marketing strategy to keep people coming back to the game.

If the game was great and it never went down players who leave the game simply wouldn’t return because each individual thing wouldn’t recieve the hype as high.

Consistency I’m afraid doesn’t sell in itself. They ran out of ideas since WoTLK. They’ve just been trying new ways to grab attention and this newest design they beleive is the most successful.

Garuntee next expansion has far more open world content and I garuntee half its blizzcon is hyping open world systems.

Garuntee we will see proper vendors and loot design for m+.

And I bet tier sets don’t get back in pre the last raid. They will time it in time to pull the playerbase back into the circle for that expansion pitch.

To hype the playerbase this expansion punched in the face. Get a ton of preorders and they’ll break another part of the game for future resales.