Ignore system in dire need of improvements

Theres also the new added disable chat functionality in options if people would wish to ignore everyone in general.

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Thanks I got a good laugh out of that one.

“This person didn’t just wrong me, but I’m afraid it was a grievous wronging. It’s a tier 2 ignoring for you!”.

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nobody reads the feedback here from blizzard side on eu forums .your best bet is to use the feedback button in game .if they deem it feasible .
the point stands though if you are going to block pug people for whatever reasons you are going to hit limit pretty quickly no matter what blizzard increase the limit to.

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We cant know that, also nothing ever changes if nobody speaks of it but this thread and the ignore list suggestions and the severity options for the ignores idk if that is what needs to be changed but his expressing his right to suggest or post on the platform in any case, its only fair :dracthyr_a1:

I didnt know that even if ignore worked account wide on the person ignored it wouldnt cover all my own characters too, I learnt that from this thread. But I dont use ignore much in game anyway, I just put chat disabled when I dont wish to see ppl in some soloq example. Kinda like put phone on flight mode when dont wish to be disturbed instead of start blocking everyone separately who calls me.

If someone finds themselves putting everyone on ignore in the game constantly they might find benefit from the added disable chat functionality in options.

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Credulon gets it with the GlobalIgnoreList addon, however Naturegirl also has a very valid point with…

My suggestion would be join a community such as FailTrain, NoPressure, or Scared of Dungeons- zero tolerance for toxicity with those guys

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My ignore list is empty and I don’t remember ever having used it in WoW. That having been said, I do support some of the ideas of the topic creator, except the following:

The entire premise of ignoring someone means that you do not want to play with them. This means that if both you and the person you ignore happen to be in a similar place (in the world, in a queue etc.) then you automatically relinquish equal treatment and automatically give them priority.

If you have a player in your ignore list, any group they are part of should not be viewable by anyone in your current group and at the same time any group you are part of should not be viewable by anyone in their group. In absolutely no case should you be given the choice to join a group with someone you have ignored. Either they are not ignored and you can interact with them on everything, or they are ignored and you are impossible to interact with at anything, period.

If you are both in automated queue for some content (dungeon, raid, pvp, whatever), then you will not be able to join a group and enter that content until they have done so.

Even if they are the cheapest option at the AH, you should not be able to see it and if you buy, you buy at the price of the first non-ignored person.

In no case should ignoring someone else be able to provide an advantage in content. It should only provide an advantage in your chat box, and a disadvantage at everything else.

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Also when I find myself in these situations in soloqs that everyone would annoy me I just use the disable chat from options, its like I dont block everyone separately either who calls me, I just put phone on flight mode when I dont wish to be disturbed or on foul mood, or whichever reason everyone someone encounters would upset them enough to put them on ignore.

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well we know that because its an open secret .feedback on forums is mostly read on usa forums .

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That still wont stop me from posting in eu platforms, dont fall in despair brother :smiley:

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my only problem with that is the box is small and it wont allow me to explain everything

Yea but this is counter productive. If they have by default made the sytem that you can still see comms then ok. But they made it that you cant so you dont get see call outs except DBM for raids but def neccessary for PvP.

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For me the chat element is just a minor part of it. I would never preemptively disable chat to spare my soul for the horrors of insults and whatnot. My main goal is to avoid playing (mostly grouping for m+) with certain players. Some people simply dont deserve to find tanks for their groups.

When your list is full and you have to remove someone to make room, I would very much like to see who is simply a nova advertisement bot, who is saying “bad tank” and leaving the key after making a mistake themselves, who is a scammer, and who is an obnoxious person throwing harsh insults and threats around. If that seems hilarious to you, so be it :person_shrugging:

It seems a lot of people misunderstand my reasons for putting people on ignore, at least when it comes to m+. I dont mind occasionally getting insults/blame thrown at me if the grouping is random. If I play shuffle or blitz and people act dumb, then it is what it is. Sure it may affect my enjoyment of the game, but Im generally not putting people in blitz on ignore as the grouping is random, and communication is a crucial part of the game. So if it increases my chances of winning, I can take some bad words.

In m+ however, where grouping isnt random, and you can very easily choose who you wish to play with, I have a very different mindset. If people show truly bad behaviour, I dont want to play with them, period. Sometimes good players are toxic, and Im willing to sacrifice a valuable group member for the sake of playing with pleasant people. Very often toxic people are also the ones who make mistakes and blame others for their own shortcomings, in which case it is very easy to put them on ignore and not play with them again. Some of my suggestions are solely meant to facilitate that filtering.

I have plenty of friends that I can run chill content with and have all good vibes and sunshine and all that. I dont need those communities for that, but I appreciate the suggestion! This is mostly relevant for me when it comes to pushing higher end m+ keys.

I was not aware of that. Ill have to try it out and see if it works. That’d be lovely!

Im not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying that you’re not currently able to enter a random bg and end up on the same team with a person on your ignore list?

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Sadly this is in correct and does not work. I know because I added those premade junkies to my ignore list but in automated queues you will always run into them eventually even dungeons or LFR.

The ignore list only works for your own premade groups in LFG. Anyone on your ignore list will not see your queues.

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Ignore is only for weak people so why do you want to add more ignore list? I dont even have any ignore players. If you dont have any ignore players which it means you are very good human.

Remove ignore system, we all happy! :joy: :joy: :joy:

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Both of you misunderstood my post. I did not explain what the current system does. I explained what I would want it to work like. I took @Triip’s suggestion and improved it according to what I deem fair.

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I don’t think “everyone” considers the ignore list a particularly noteworthy aspect of the game.

For instance I don’t use it at all, have no desire to have it increased or have the need for a function to catalogue my ignore list and write notes on people I ignored.

I think the current system is fine and your suggestion isn’t needed. If you want to write notes about why you ignored someone, you can write it on a paper.

Its just an improvement for you. Not for everyone else.

Everyone else has learned to get along with people, be an adult, and not require a really long and complicated ignore list.

Here is the thing you dont understand.

Everyone is doubting your intentions. If you really “don’t care about grudges” then why do you find it necessary to keep people in the ignore list for 15 years?

In fact. Puting someone in the ignore list is the definition of “grudge” and “beef”. And the fact that its so long and you have caped it already says that you got a ton of people there. And that anything and everything is a “beef” for you.

And that is why nobody takes you seriously.

It IS hilarious.

You report bots. You dont ignore them.

Scammers dont exist anymore since TBC atleast. They bug fixed all the scamming avenues and there are none left. Obnoxious people and leavers dont require ingores. Just walk away.

The only reason you need an ignore list is when some of those individuals simply wont stop whispering you over and over again for days. Almost like stalking.

Thats it.

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As far as I got it, they are using ignore list as an option to improve their success rates in some forms of group content. They ignore players not (just?) because they said something bad but because they acted bad – like, pulled extras as DPS and all such. Trash talkers aren’t getting ignored for trash talking:

So, if what I assumed was correct, then OP’s suggestion probably won’t get through. While ignore lists can be utilised for these reasons, they were never supposed to. Ignores are for situations when someone is pestering you in a non-reportable way, and when people are disruptive in groups (like, when, as OP has explained, they pulled unnecessary packs, died, and then left), you are expected to report them and move on. Blizzard – at least, as much as they had stated – aren’t fond of gatekeeping based on skill levels and / or gameplay mistakes, and doing something wrong and saying something wrong are two different things.

In short, OP is using ignore list in an unsupported way. And for everything unsupported it’s, as always, best to just find a proper addon solution.

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You either didnt read my posts properly or didnt understand. You take one phrase out of context and use it to make a point thats not even remotely accurate of what I said. I very explicitly stated that I have a completely different mindset when it comes to ignoring people for randomly grouped content, such as bg blitz and shuffle, and for content where you make custom groups, like m+.

In blitz and shuffle I have a higher threshold for putting people on ignore, because it is a random system where I will repeatedly be grouped with potential offenders. The grouping is out of my control, and since communication is a crucial part of the game, I’ll only ignore in very severe cases.

In m+, where the grouping is not random, and I can choose who I play with, I have a lower threshold for ignoring people. As opposed to what you claimed, I even said I wouldnt mind losing out on good teammates (as in higher success rate) if they show bad behaviour:


Fair enough. Yet your and everyone elses response is: it doesnt affect me, so they shouldnt do it. Instead of actually arguing why it shouldnt be implemented.

Evidently not. Most players simply avoid competitive content due to toxicity. So while this currently doesnt apply to many people, it would be one step on a path to fixing one of the most important core issues of the game.

Here is the thing you dont understand (quite surprisingly, as I have explained it in great detail quite a few times now :smiley: ):

I would love to be able to remove people that have been on my ignore list for 15 years. The issue is that there’s no way to tell when I ignored someone and why I ignored someone. You can put people on the ignore list for all sorts of reasons. It can be advertisements from before the report system and trade services were implemented. It can be scammers…

Im pretty sure one of the reasons they changed the crafting order system in TWW was so that you’d be less prone to scams, with how you can now select quality without making it a big hurdle for the crafter.

…it can be people typing excessively in trade chat about horny uwu stuff (mostly applies to AD), and it can be rude and obnoxious people.

Personally, if someone intentionally pulls extra trash in a m+ as a dps, wipes the group, says “OMG U GUYS SO BAD” and leaves the group, I dont want to group with that person again. Its not about the hurtful words, its not about the fact they pulled more trash, its about the mindset. Someone could do the exact same thing, even intentionally, and simply express “sorry guys mb, I shouldnt have done that”, and only leave the group once the group reaches a mutual understanding. Then it would be no problem. If that doesnt apply to you, all good. I just dont see why you’re so hellbent on denying other people the option to.

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Wasn’t addressed at me, but for me, I think: all the power to you! It wouldn’t affect me and it might help you, so why not?

But despite everything you wrote in that very post above, it’s still clear as day that you’re utilizing ignore lists not in a way that Blizzard expects you to. Which means that your suggestion probably won’t go through. Why they expect it to be used in that certain way – or whether it is good or bad – is a different conversation altogether…

No, I gave it a fair read. Would it be more helpful if I had quoted more, given that the text in question was always right there? Ignore list wasn’t supposed to be a bottomless pit one can put half of the playerbase into and expect the system to accommodate. Unfortunately, it can easily spiral out of control because the people you ignored – the data itself – are being held on the servers, and every interaction is being checked to prevent unwanted interactions: not just messaging, but also mail, grouping, and much more, that can’t be handled by client side alone. Lots of testing potentially!

Given the technical limitations of MMOs in place, when someone has wronged you, Blizzard would vastly prefer for you to use the report button. And if someone was disruptive in your group, there’s a report option for that too. If you comply, you will be temporarily “protected” from them for a while and, if that behaviour is a custom, Blizzard might sanction the account by applying the very same ignore functionality upon their account, albeit, in a sense, from the other side.

Thus, the ignore option is reserved for mainly two cases: when sanctions are delayed for whatever reason (for example, when you were mistaken in your judgement of their character or when the person is truly vile but they somehow manage to persist) or when the person isn’t doing anything reportable but you still can’t stand them (they wear a terrible transmog, or they disagree with you in your forum threads, or it’s your bothersome ex).

There’re no other situations that you have mentioned which can’t be handled with the proper (from Blizzard’s perspective!) tool which is the reason why I wrote my first post the way I did.