Illiterate or just intentionally malicious people over console?

I guess i hit a nerve. You get confronted with facts, now you wont discuss it anymore. Lil bro :slight_smile:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/70466614?zone=38
For sure i got carried :skull:

Play high keys and raid CE, then tell me :slight_smile:

Duelist. You yourself hit elite 3 times in 3 boosted seasons :slight_smile:
Once the season is balanced you are stuck duelist. Speaks volumes.

Its low. It is really low. And if we would play a single push key (your keylevel) together, i can show you exactly what you did wrong in every single pull.
Just like you could probably in Solo Shuffle. I give you that much respect :wink:

Said by the guy who says WoW PvP is difficult when League of Legends, Lost Ark and Blade and Soul exist :skull:

“I guess i hit a nerve,You get confronted with facts,now you wont discuss it anymore.Lil bro :slight_smile: “

how old are you :rofl: :sweat_smile: you turned xbox console thread into you’re 2x CE achievements,such fragile ego get some help.

And i got to 2.6 before inflated crap on regular arena.Even those consistent duelists tell more,than your combatant.Combatant experienced dude calling out duelit/elite.Holly molly you’re that type of dude,im literally laughing my a off :grin: :sweat_smile:

Currently 3907 all priests above me,2488 disci priests, realm 69/54.Its not good as yours,but its not low.You cant even read lol.Ye high arenas are way harder than lol.

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By abusing ret / arms in S2 Shadowlands, Assa in DF S1 and Arcane mage in S3 TWW? :slight_smile:
Duelist…stick to the facts. 1 serious pvp season and I outpeak you.

3,1k is low. Whats so hard to understand? You are average at best :smiley:

Nope,as i said i main survival hunter.Since you already said that playing healer is easier than DPS especially DH and you posted skill capped video 2 years old,i wouldnt be surprised to see you claim SV is also easy

You’re below average in a way harder content.

I didn’t even hit 3K yet (I’m around 2.8K). I started playing WoW again in Season 3, about a month and a half ago, and I already have 721 ilvl, so that shows how hard it really is.

But honestly, with all my experience in WoW, I can tell you that 3K means nothing. Anything below 15+ keys, especially this late in the season, isn’t that special. The real challenge starts once you go above 15+. And you probably know why, because you can only gear up to a certain point, and you can only min-max your DPS so much. But once you go beyond 15s, the scaling becomes brutal, and your max ilvl doesn’t help you as much anymore.

I used to do Cutting Edge content back in Legion, so I’ve been playing WoW for many years, both hardcore and casual. What I’m seeing now in endgame content is insane. And honestly, people who haven’t really gone deep into endgame shouldn’t talk about it as if they understand it.

You’re right, some overgeared hunters, priests, or mages can carry or boost you, but only up to a certain point. And that point is exactly around 15+ keys. After that, if they’re bad, they won’t progress. That’s the filter point. And it has nothing to do with addons, no matter how many you use.

We’re also missing the point completely when it comes to addons and Midnight. I’m the first one to vote against addons, but I’m also the first to shout at Blizzard to add more customization options, so I can adjust things like interface size and visuals to fit my eyesight or personal preference. Addons shouldn’t be the fix for that.

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And I explained to you that Aldrachi Reaver is more difficult than S3 DF Havoc. Reading is difficult, right?

Naa, sv is imo the perfect difficulty. Every spec should be in that category. Played it myself a few times.

2,1k. Below average. kekw.
Okay, okay. In shuffle i stop the moment I get my elite sets. Usually takes a few hours, queue times as dps are rough.
You got me there :frowning:

And thats exactly what im talking about,i never took m+ seriously before,rerolled priest took 3,1k and im going to push way above that,because im not struggling at all,15 will be piss easy as well.

This dude turned topic into “im better than you” because he got 2 CE,like it has anything to do with this.Ye i agree 100% on the last part.

How did this thread go from talking about console to bragging about in-game achievements? Yikers

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Now you are straight up lying. You accused me of getting boosted because you are insecure.
You make a false statement about PvE, i call you out on it and you have a mental breakdown.

Me calling you out, because you have no experience when it comes to BigWigs / WAs.

You having a mental breakdown.

Accusing me of getting boosted :smiley:

You are straight up lying to not be the bad guy here.

You have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to Addons like BigWigs and WAs (addons telling you what to do).
When people with experience start talking, you listen because you dont know anything about it.
When you start talking about PvP, I will listen. Thats how the world works. Not “i scream the loudest, I am right.”

And now have atleast the decency to admit that your PvE experience is limited.
My PvP experience is limited and i will listen to better players.

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Buddy, yes, I have to say it… but you’re being a little bit ignorant. The difference between 12–13 level keys and 16–17, not even mentioning higher, is insane. CE in Legion, for example, was nowhere near as hard as Cutting Edge now in Omega. I’ve watched Mythic fights on YouTube – it’s insane. Some bosses are clearly designed assuming you’re using WeakAuras, and even with them, they’re still extremely difficult.

Nowadays, the amount of skill, patience, and focus you need for CE is literally torture. No matter which addons you use, it’s still insanely hard. And the Mythic raiding environment with progress guilds aiming for CE is completely different. You have to play and go through at least one season just to start adapting, and maybe, just maybe, you’ll be ready to actually participate in a Mythic progress raid. It takes an enormous amount of time just to get used to it. Some Mythic guilds build their team and roster over years through many expansions before they reach the point of achieving CE every season.

Buddy, it’s hard. It’s really, really, really hard.

EDIT:

Every spec is hard. Tanking, healing, and DPS. Maybe, just maybe, DPS is the hardest, even though it might look like you’re just dodging sheet and pew pew boss It’s much more than that. Even a slight difference in how you manage your DPS, buffs, or cooldowns can mean the difference between a kill and wiping at 0.1%, over and over again, 100 of times.

“Yep, not a single CE. Just another troll thread.” literally your first reply,which indicates that you did mythic raid,so we can admire you.

You said it by yourself “Me too, i hate Weakaura. I hated Ovinax, Stixx and Fractillus mythic because they were impossible without WAs” Which is exactly what im talking about,i dont need to be an expert to see whats wrong here,and especially for new players who cant deal with all the information this game has,plus addon requirements.Some specs could not be played properly without weakauras,like outlaw rogue.Remove that bloatware and make game more approachable and simpler but not dumbed down.People should play the game and not addons,as simple as that.

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We started back in Sepulcher, our first CE was Aberrus, we couldnt kill Fyrakk after 250 pulls (500 pulls on Tindral broke us) and we got every CE since NP. We are currently sitting at 7/8m.

Is it as difficult as high arena? Nope. Simply cant be.
Is it still one of the most difficult tasks in the game? Absolutely.

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I will let you believe that. The last part is only in your head.

Outlaw, arcane mage (the WA literally tells you when you press AB), in raids ironically Aug.
Iirc Omnicc was more or less mandatory for high pvp to track cds.

Would make things much easier and maybe more players would try to push m+ or arena. So a net positive for everyone playing high content.

EXACTLY! THE KEY PART!

People dont even understand what 500 wipes means!!!

I remember in legion we were wiping on Ilginoth for like idk now, but lets say 80 times. We almost disbanded as guild how desperate we felt. I had to respec and gear up as a resto for that fight. And that was just 80 wipes…

500 wipes, okay buddy! I salute you for that.

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80 wipes were our “lets get this WA working” wipes on Ovinax.
I didnt raid mythic back then, but from what i heard is that the difficulty creep is just too much.
It has to stop.

Swapping roles mid progress is a very difficult skill, especially when you already progressed that fight for multiple evenings. I had to swap to tank for One-Armed Bandit. I believe atleast 15 pulls were my fault.

Thank you. It was pure torture. Every single mechanic in that fight resulted in a personal or raidwide one-shot. It was not fun wiping in p1 after 450 pulls :smiley:

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Happens to almost every thread where egoes clash

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Ye, we were small guild and we didnt have a lot of alts. Also it was the start of expansion, so even if you managed to have some there was no time to gear them up for mythic raid content.

I never healed before that haha. After that kill and me rolling as resto I started my healing career. Now is back to dps haha.

Method had 375 wipes, okay way earlier then you guys started wiping, but it just shows how insane its becoming from patch to patch.

The legendaries situation didnt help. I remember it. Some mages played to many alt mages just to get that one legendary. You guys had it really rough.

Pre nerf Tindral could have been the final boss of the expansion. Blizzard was smoking some good stuff while developing that monster.
20 seeds, 20 players and you cant step onto a 2nd seed or its a wipe. What??

Yes. Its getting more ridiculous every patch.

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A bit too bold of a statement.

Do not take away my copium. :frowning: