I'm done with warlock

Warlock tops several dps in terms of damage and survivability, what we will do about this classes? what exactly equality is to you? i ask because i don’t believe your point is well thought out, you just ranting about nothing in particular.

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Whatever partner,the more posts like this the faster we get an update,this is how it works,and you right now being a nuance and nothing else so i suggest you move on.

but we constantly get updates that take in mind community feedback…

Duh, many changes to class especially to affliction is result of community feedback, if blizzard really ignored feedback community wouldn’t be constantly vocal about issues

You are a fine troll,no damage is fine i top meters 9/10 in m+ surv is great if u need tips ifor anything or like an arena boost give me a /w in game i got a 2.4k arena achiv and everything,is just the class plays like driving an antique car see.
Have a nice day

There are still 2 months left in 2025 .dont lose hope :fist: :facepunch:

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why are you calling me a troll when i never personally attacked you while you tried to verbally attack me 2 times.
Anywhoose

Last patch of the 2024 will be “blizzard deletes warlock and adds additional summoner spec to mage” because it’s kind of what op wants.

I despise when people start “i hate that warlock is a turret caster and want him to be something else” instead of “how we can make warlock feel better while not losing his identity”

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Destro and Demo are two specs I havent really touched much in this expansion but Affliction is terrible design if you ask me. I find it odd if people that have played affliction from mop wod legion and forwards think this playstyle is better.

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You do a terrible job at articulating a problem.

Left in the dust but top damage.

If you’re done with warlock then you can

  1. Just stop playing it, its not an airport departure lounge, nobody cares
  2. Give proper feedback rather than a generic rant. All we can glean from this is no name alt mad. Again, nobody cares.
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Decided to try warlock for TWW but am dropping it as well. It just doesn’t feel nice to play compared to others even if it has amazing class fantasy. The damage isnt completely bad and I’m able to keep up just fine but I find myself constantly frustrated not being able to do things I can on other classes.

Pretty sure warlock once had something that allowed them to cast on the move but I guess thats gone now. Would be nice to get back though, would help a lot.

As for the burning rush thing. At first I thought leaving it on by mistake was just a learning curve but even now it keeps happening over and over because the button press gets overwritten or something. Its annoying as hell :joy:

Riiiight, thats whats happening huh

Well… It is in my mind :nerd_face: But pretty sure I press it but then find its still on.

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his problem is

  1. warlock casts much while other classes cast less
  2. his mobility is restricted.

That’s warlock’s class fantasy - tanky but mobility-restricted class, this kind of discourse always ends in “mop had best class design for warlock” because of ability that could allow warlock to cast on move (it was also an expac when pruning and homogenization started) completely ignoring that warlock in mop was unidsputed number 1 class with no apparent weaknesses, because for wow players best design isn’t fun and balanced design, it’s when you are a top 1 on charts.

Imagine if warlock loses it’s low mobility (you aren’t pressed to learn movement for encounter better than other caster classes anymore), and doesn’t have much to track and cast (warlock becomes easier mage). Pruned, homogenized but now some joe is happy that he doesn’t feel “left behind”.
My god

You obviously care for responding to my post.
Or is it attention that you are seeking?recognition?wow dude that’s a cool mog,is that what you want to hear?
I’ve seen you around lurking in every thread with your miserable attitude,you can do better,be better.
Smile,life is beatiful

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Yet again failed to give proper feedback I see. Much hard for you?

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I mained a lock when I returned to WoW last year but soon fell out of love with it. I have my demons, why do I need a thousand imps to spawn in and help too? Burning Rush, which is the only mobility assist is both good and bad. Good because you can keep it active for a long time but bad obviously as it drains health.

If I were ever to go back to lock, these two things at the least needed to be addressed. Remove all the demon spawns, just me and my one demon is fine thank you. I don’t mind burning rush taking health, it sort of fits with the class and one or two heals should sort you out but I’d prefer if it made you faster but lasted a set time and perhaps give it charges.

This has nothing to do with class fantasy, stop using words that you don’t understand. You are speaking about playstyle, which is correct, back in early stages of WoW, Warlocks had long casts and low mobility, but you forget that we are in 2024 and the game has evolved into something different.

In the past it made sense that a Warlock had to stand still and cast, Warlocks were tankier than Mages but had less mobility, which for the content available back then it was balanced because all you had to do is press your 1 button rotation and there were no mechanics, just stand still and cast.

The problem is that Warlock’s playstyle nowadays is outdated, because dungeons/raid mechanics are very punishing in that regard, therefore it needs to be adjusted to today’s standards.

It doesn’t have to be that extreme, but when you compare them to their counterpart (Mage) it hurts to watch… Mages have infinite mobility, CC, utility, and they are TANKIER than Warlocks, it just doesn’t make sense.

And no, I don’t believe Mages should be changed/nerfed, I think Warlock is just outdated. I believe it’s possible to keep the “essence” of a tanky/slow caster without having to homogenize the class.

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it’s vague term, some use it for this too

We had mechanics that hindered your movement and required you to stop casting since… wotlk i guess? the funny thing is that the only spec that is truly can be hindered my high amount of movement is destro, demo is highly mobile outside of tyrant window and most of affli’s abilites are insta casts

I watched some mages whining about warlocks being able to tank abilites head on and being able to quickly recover from punishing mechanic. all mage’s personals need to be set up, there is no oh crap button like soulburned healthstone, i really don’t understand when EVERY class in this game likes to act like a victim

No it’s not and you know it.

Why is it so difficult to admit when you’re wrong? Like who cares, you learnt something new and you probably won’t make the same mistake again, good for you.

16 years at least, time for an update maybe? We aren’t in vanilla/classic anymore, enemies do stuff that they didn’t back then.

Affli is all about MR spam and Drain Soul channeling, so low mobility outside of refreshing 2 dots… And Demo has a cast time on everything except random core/dog procs and implosion…

Now compare it to Mage, instant blizzard, instant orb, instant comet storm, instant ice nova, instant cone of cold, instant ice lance, instant flurry… yeah not even close lol

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i certainly heard it’s used for how class plays too, because surprise surprise your playstyle is directly linked to your class fantasy, like for example rogue being stealthy fragile melee and dk being an immobile but unstoppable machine, warlock is immoblie but punchy and healthy caster because he is juiced up by demon magic and controls immense amount of power.

well maybe if warlock is alive and healthy for 16 years and kept it’s playstyle and class fantasy intact maybe you sholu

and clarify yourself that you aren’t an endless pool of wisdom

only in soul harvester because of constant nightfall procs and ridiculous amount of shard gen, and if you can’t handle drain soul (you don’t need to finish channel, only stack max amount of shadow embrace) you can switch to shadow bolt, it won’t be immense dps loss.

Except when they need to cast shifting power, except when most of the arcane opener is channel and hard cast, except when fire mage’s instant cast depend on hot streak proc.
But yeah frost mage is easy caster to play lmao.
What else… shadow priest has high amount of hard casting, idk about balance dru, evoker charges his abilities, how much amount of hard casting elem shammy has?
MAKE EVERY CASTER A FROST MAGE

The BIG difference is that Mages don’t need to cancel casts and lose DPS because they have double shimmer/ice floes, Warlock’s don’t have that luxury and so every cast canceled is a big DPS loss.

For other classes it is a completely different subject because then we have to start comparing offhealing and other things that overcomplicate the discussion.

I’m not saying that every caster has to be like a bm hunter but the tanky turret Warlock style doesn’t fit into modern pve content because you can’t really tank anything, if you get hit you die, so the playstyle needs to be updated accordingly.