M+ doesn’t get fun until +12, except that the scaling is so high that you can barely enjoy it because that’s most likely where people reach their stop. Doing lower keys is just not fun because I constantly have to focus on this atrocious affix. Lower level keys are just frustrating at this point.
This is even worse because I have to do lower keys to get runed crests… It feels so wrong that +2~11 keys are more sweaty cause of the affix than +12 keys.
Oh no, 17 out of 20 times you have to spend 4 seconds to gain +20% of a secondary stat for 20 seconds, 2 out of 20 times the enemies get 1 stack of benefit (you still get 18% stat) and 1 out of 20 times you are close to/actually wipe because of it.
I have a feeling you would have loved OG Bolstering or Explosive.
If you want the highest ilvl gear in the game you should have to concentrate and play mechanics.
That ratio is a lot different for boss fights. It’s annoying with trash, but it’s worse for fights. Last boss CoT, TWICE we had orbs while being rooted at a timing where we couldn’t deal with it. issue Same with last boss in CoE, etc.
No I did not.
That’s the thing, it shouldn’t be that way. The affixes should just be removed. It’s not fun, it’s annoying. Shouldn’t be that mechanically higher keys are less complex.
To be fair; you are a sitting duck when you need to fly on the 1st boss Dawnbreaker and the orbs spawn. And there are way more stupid examples like this. On paper every mechanic is easy. I am so happy playing on 12’s now.
Yeah that’s the thing, I don’t think the affixes are bad at all. Imo they are better than anything we got before, I just still hate them.
+12 keys are so chill, there’s no nagging feeling of an affix that’s about to spawn and you have to deal with. I’m just really sad it starts at +12 and then I most likely won’t go past +13 or +14 this season and I don’t even get to enjoy it…
You fail to mention the rest of the 99% of cases where affixes dont overlap. And you get a BL for 50% of the dungeon’s duration. You can acually feel the absence of this buff quite significantly in 12s.
Fact is we faught too hard for these kiss/curse affixes. We have been asking for them for years.
So now that they are here, and we finally got what we wanted… IMO they are here to stay. And should stay.
If you dont like them do 12s. We need more people doing 12s anywais.
Yes, but that doesn’t make the affix any more fun.
As a replacement yes, but +12 doesn’t have them and is better for it. So if we can do it without active affixes, why not on the lower key levels as well?
I would, but due to the difficulty where 1 mistake is RIP key, we end up with an 11 and really cba playing those.
Well make up your mind then …
You want the help of a mini-BL in lower keys or not ?
Because if you remove the affixes you will still be in a situation where 1 mistake == RIP key. Even on a 7.
As if dealing with some orbs was a big deal. You remove them and then you will complain about swirlies on the ground that overlap. Or some mobs that cast overlaping unavoidable damage…
And should they remove all that then you will complain dungeons are boring…
No im sorry. Deal with it.
I have made up my mind, I don’t like the affix, I don’t want it, even if it gives a buff.
No I won’t, never have, never will. I’ve been advocating for the removal of active affixes for 3 expansions.
Then play 12s. What is the big deal then ?
And you got what you wanted. Play 12s.
With my +11 keys? Because practice in +12 means 1 wipe, RIP key, then you’re back to +11.
And why is that?
I know. There are many reasons for that. And ONE of the reasons is preciselly the absence of the Xalatath affixes.
So you want to be in that situation on a +7 as well or what ?
In conclusion: If doing a 12+ is an issue, welcome to the club. Complain about the right things: Removal of the gile, removal of the 10% damage in a 12+, make scaling of a 12+ the same as an 11+ to compensate the loss of Xalathath Affixes, revert the spell quew changes, buff tanks/healers…
So many things they have to do… Complain about those…
Not everyone can easily play 12. Not to forget alts also exists to have fun with.
I understand that. And you know what my opinion on that is from previous posts.
It should not be like that. I want S3 DF back, where a +20 and a +22 was not such a big difference.
But alas, its not the case. And I complain about it all the time.
As for the alt situation, I will say the same thing I said to Linarawri. It would not be as “fun or easy” with out 50% uptime of a BL buff. So removing the affixes is something players will regret.
The buff is not making it more fun than the affix is making it annoying tbh. It’s this nagging feeling in the back of your mind, not being able to focus on actually playing because there will be a timed trigger that you can’t avoid, and you better pray it has no weird mechanical overlap.
Because we don’t have time to do homework keys. If we’re lucky my group gets about 3 keys done in an evening after work. We enjoy pushing, not playing low level keys just to get back up to practice a +12 that we most likely won’t get again for a few days.
There is so much time wasted to get back the key you were trying to time, that by that point you’re already out of practice because either you did it playing completely different due to the Xal’atath affix, or you simple didn’t get to play it because nobody got the key for days.
No you dont. I dont atleast.
You would in high keys. Like the previous affixes that were on a timer. But that is not a thing anymore.
100% correct.
Then how about ask for 3 charges per key, to remove depletes… ect…
The Xalatath affix is the least of your concerns. In fact, you are in the exact situation I was. And in the exact situation Tsjoh was:
You deplete 12s. But you 3 chest 11s. And you spend your days ping-ponging 11/12 and that sucks.
And xalathath affixes have NOTHING to do with that. As you have clearly pointed out. Because if you cant do 12s (because of Blizzards bad scaling policy, not your fault), what are you gonna do all season ? Do 10s non stop until you get bored ? You can do that right now ! Play 10s, time all the 10s all the time and stop playing once you are bored.
Nah. I hate using full time healing cooldowns on the dispell affix. Or tanking a 2nd +2 and dealing with a ranged group and i get 4 orbs and the add 6. I try to learn to tank here. So well, that is flopping over. It is just crap. I do not want that ‘bloodlust buff’. I prefer a normal dungeon over these annoyance.
Do you prefer the old Afflicted affix ?
Or Bolstering ?
Its literally the same PLUS extra BL. I dont see what the big deal is here.
Why do we need affixes at all? We don’t have them on +12 and up. Then we can play without them on lower keys too. The dungeons are just so much better without this crap.
The big deal is that i hate it needing to use healing cooldowns on the dispell, or playing the dungeons without ring of peace or stun totem because it is completely assigned. And i dislike even more flopping over because of mobs getting buffed. It is quite a big deal. I can’t care about bloodlust. I played enough dungeons without a BL class too anyway.