Immunities need to go

How is this supposed to be challenging or fun, when a class can pop a random button, be immune to anything you can do for 10 seconds and bang you like there is no tomorrow, while you can take a nap before this ends? Doesnt matter if its cloak of shadows, bop, bubble, guardian druid incarn, holy priest’s divine ascention , dh flying or whatever else.
Make it huge reductions to dmg taken or duration of effects, if necessary, but enemies shouldnt be immune to everything or it needs a downside, like it used to be with pala bubble or bop. Ppl die in less than 2 seconds and popping immunities while killing the enemy without him being able to do anything is just pathetic even for a bad social experiment such as Stallinglands.
Not that you Blizzard would ever visit pvp forums, but since Im forced to afk lfg again, Im offering you this free advice.

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The problem is that Blizzard feels like every change they make need to be set in stone for ages. For instance, nerfing pala damage inside bubble by 50% would make a lot of sense currently, but maybe next xpac it won’t.
Blizzard need to start making changes while making it clear it’s situational. They’ve actually start doing that with big offensive cds dispel where they clearly stated “combustion remains dispellable for now for balance purpose but it might change in the future”. That is a very good start, now they need to do it with everything else, including bubble indeed.

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The same goes for dcds - why anyone can use Shield Wall in stun - even twice(hello ferals), heal to full, cuz conduit and others just die in 3-4 sec stuns, cuz they don’t pre-wall it.

???

surv instincts isnt usable in stuns. only barkskin

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Class mechanics is broken, this game not for PvP and never designed for PvP. When 1 class just GoD in something, others pretty mediocre. 1 class can push 1 button and just giggle at you.

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turtle you cant attack, block you cant do anything, netherwalk you cant do anything, dh flying hes still attackable, but if you mean metha animation, well it doesnt last very long.

The only deffs that dont have any downsides are cloak, but this is only magical tho, and bubble, but this is the only really def they have and else they just flop agaisnt any caster cleave.

To me it looks more like they have no vision of whats coming next. Like literally zero plans in advance, no leadership, just throwing random **** on the wall and see what sticks, thats going to be recycled in the future patches. I agree with your point, there should be some set core mechanics and they just adapt balancing or add (more like recycle) new abilities balanced around these core mechanics to not completely break the game, because they dont put enough effort into it to fix it soon enough and we get stuck with it for year+. Or actually listen to player feedback on alpha, beta, ptr or even forums. That would do the job for them, for free and ppl would start enjoying the game for a change.

Try playing non hunter and you will see how much of a problem it is. Certain classes can make such abilities 100% irrelevant, while they simply broke the gameplay for others. Why are such abilities in the game? Its like they are trying to make everybody mad, because once its broken af and second time its useless. Thats not how you balance pvp and its useless for pve, so why its in the game at first place?

Every range can hit him, also flying up hes just basically locked in place and can only cast fellance. means you are freely able to cc healer and just nuke him after. And btw as sv hunter i also cant kill him in that animation.

He can maybe specc 2 pvp talents in to have 70% dmg reduction through flying, but that on a cost of utility and dmg.

i mean, if you take that to a point, then dispersion is also kind of obnoxious with the low cd of 90 seconds ontop of trading it off with greater fade (dmg immunity aswell). Wouldnt it be the same case?

I dont have really a problem with immunity abilities, cause they are usually a longer cd and on classes that are squishy when getting trained and sticked on. I know hte case of beeing a warlock, popping wall (3 minute cd) and still die through, much fun right?

The only thing is that you shouldnt be able to 100-0 someone during such thing as a bubble.

As Kaleiki said when they add something in the game they never think how it will work in PvP. Idk, what u want if they have this. Just try to find fun, what esle u can do? One-shot random proc/crit META isn’t fun i think, thats is the main problem of the whole expansion.

I didn’t ready everything but immunites are literally the only thing that helps against the current oneshot meta. I don’t agree with either of them really but as long as white (oneshot) is here we need black (immunities).

They could make a system such as greater fade, you can kick into it and if you do a harmful action it cancel the immunity.

mass dispel gg wp

It’s just mages and rogues that’s the issue, isn’t it ?

Evasion/Cloak counter everything they’re supposed to.

Mages have IB which is against everything, but even then it’s not the issue since he cannot do anything while inside. - The issue comes when the mage restores his healthbar with shields/block/cauterize/alter time while waiting for his cooldowns.

I’ve not seen anyone call hunter’s aspect of the turtle overpowered nor netherwalk due to obvious tradeoffs and class weaknesses.

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Imagine being one of the other 30 specs that do not have that…

more than half teams I face have a priest or warrior that counter ice block. Your argument is moot.

So your logic is that you completely counter one enemy and your defenses get completely obliterated by another? So you just roll the dice and pray? How is that competitive, fun or engaging? Id rather have something I can rely on.

my logic is that divine shield and block aren’t a real problem if literally warr and priest are most represented specs in arenas right now and with talents like immp. mass dispel you can obliterate that defense you cry about. This is ridiculous. Yoou are lazy trolling

You know, wow is bigger than your own bubble. There are other classes, other specs and zero balance between them. But all you do is spamming forums with trash topics, so I guess you are too busy to understand what Im talking about.

link the topics i started lately. u r full of u know what

Do you take days off or how come there is a day without 50%+ of topics started by you? Ur getting old, dude, losing the edge.