Surely if they are out of the way and can’t be seen/heard it’s no big deal. If they are on some roof and what they do isn’t impacting anyone I don’t see the harm. Though, if you are ooc in the middle of someone’s rp, chatting ooc to your mate I can see it. But mounting up to get out of rp or sitting on a roof is no harm no foul. What I can’t see or don’t know won’t hurt me.
Nonetheless thank you for a civil response, I will try to explain why I think you are wrong, in an equally civil manner.
The problem is, who decides what is an obviously ooc situation? There isn’t such a thing. I mean by definition it is an RP realm, so it -should- theoretically constantly be IC.
We know this doesn’t happen, I have seen many of the loudest callers for RP to be respected here acting OOC. I have certainly done it myself. On Alts I have been levelling and had to blitz through an area to do quests, when there is blatantly an RP event being run. A swift /Sorry and just doing your stuff quick as you can and leaving without hanging around is to just about all minds a completely reasonable act. I’ve never seen that as bad. Because like, that is part of the game, you have to quest!
Completely Agree, 100%
Sure, but that’s not the problem at hand here, the problem is certain areas being “off Limits” to RP’ers, despite it being an RP Realm. Stormwind’s Trade District is one, the Bazaar in Silvermoon is another, the Valley of Strength in Orgrimmar yet another.
There, OOC chatter is not a bit of jokes, but is actively stopping people Roleplaying on a Roleplaying realm. Its inhabitants will actively mock and disrupt RP, which I think we can all agree goes a bit beyond just OOCing around.
In that regard we’re kind of the same as anyone else, because, well, we -are- the same as anyone else, and you will get emotionally estranged roleplayers, just the same as you would PvP’ers or Raiders.
What people are asking for isn’t even necessarily -extra- Moderation, rather than the Moderation rules in place to actually be enforced, which isn’t like, that unreasonable a request. At the moment we’re playing Football where one of the referees doesn’t even know the Offside Rule, and isn’t bothered about enforcing it, even if they did. Which, is like, totally a game changer.
I agree it would take a lot of dedication. It would also reward the singular body of the playerbase who keeps active subs during content drought, and keeps the servers alive when there are no new battlegrounds or raids. Blizzard should be -grateful- for RP’ers in their game, rather than being blasé and ignoring them.
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Can’t see Valley of Strength/Trade District being cleared ever due to them being the main ooc hubs for the auction house/bank.
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Exactly this
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Not with that Attitude! I jest obviously, I can’t see it properly happening either, doesn’t mean that I won’t support initiatives trying to reclaim areas for RP.
I get what you mean. Just not feasible for those areas. In terms of goldshire, most just use it in warmode for a squeaky clean experience. Doubt that place will ever be clean either. Can’t speak for the bazaar though.
I’m pretty confident (though could also be mistaken) that you can actually hear the OOC chatter from folk on the ‘roof’ if you’re roleplaying beneath it, but even if that wasn’t the case, the amount of OOC yells I see come from that location half the time is more than enough reason for it to not be a practice that’s continued.
I personally don’t think it’s a big ask at all as folk have numerous means of chatting to one another - even as a group rather than 1 on 1 DM’s - in private channels. It’s basically just a common courtesy that I think all roleplayers should basically extend to one another
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I never see the chatter from up there personally. And any yells I see are from lollers usually which isn’t acceptable by most means anyway and usually gets a report if it’s of an Ooc nature. But yells can be from anywhere, even trade district.
Which is why they need to stop.
All well and good. But you can’t fall into the fallacy of composition and lump every Tom, dick and Harry that afks on a rooftop out of the way into the same bracket.
Well people who are “meme roofing” should make their own chat channel to avoid any unwanted problems.
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Says who? When they aren’t disrupting anything. If one of them yells, that’s bad. But if it can’t be seen how is it an issue? Just falls into the territory of over policing things then for the sake of it.
And if it can?
Better to be safe than sorry.
It’s not over policing either, it’s trying to keep the RP in the RP server.
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The issue I see here is that you talk as if it’s not a common occurrence when, frankly, it is in fact pretty common & as someone who is often in Stormwind I’m made to sit and look at silly OOC yells when I’m sat roleplaying which isn’t exactly what I’m looking for on a server that’s supposed to be for roleplaying
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Which isn’t good. But to police everyone that sits on a roof just to be safe? That’s going way over the top. Report the ones that yell and do disrupt.
“Says who” is such a non-argument - you can see right there that Distantpeak said it and Distantpeak can easily parrot “says who” back at you and maybe to much greater effect
If rules against OOCing in spatial channels - as outlined in the original RP realm policy - is something that isn’t allowed on an RP server that has to be enforced equally and without bias. It truly doesn’t matter that you have friends that do this and that and I’m sure they’re all incredibly cool but if we want Blizzard to take action I think “you should take action but not in this specific circumstance related to me =P” is not a good request
Either way this thread isn’t really about meme roof et al but rather OOC griefing / cybering so if you’re really interested in advocating for people thinking the orphanage roof is a discord chat you should make a thread about it to have that discussion there
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Not advocating it, nor do I even sit there and engage with it. I usually just fly up far away if I am to afk. Just saying if we can see it and people are yelling/disrupting to, then sure report them in terms with the rules. You can find them easily if they are yelling. If you can’t see them and they aren’t disrupting, what would be the point in reporting them if they are just sitting on some roof? Just think it’s way too ott.
I think disruption in general, lollers and griefers should be clamped on. But I don’t agree with policing for policing sake.
I think this is an empty statement that says very little
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No one is doing that, it is policing for the sake of role play
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As in “Reporting everyone who is on the roof just to be safe.” That stuff I don’t agree with.