[ Important? ] Building a better AD

And it’s exactly why you or anyone would want to report names that are not strictly tied to the character.

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My thoughts: if you use it in your TRP, it is cool

Ie. If you’re called Johnsmith and you’re John Smith IC that’s cool
If you’re called Indefatigable and you’re a called John the Indefatigable IC it’s cool
If you’re called trooper and you’re John Smith, Stormwind Trooper IC it’s cool
If you’re called pvpgodx and you’re John Smith IC then it should be reported

Am I right or am I right fellow gamers

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Absolutely right, Perroy.

- Sapbaron Dawners

Where does this leave, say, Pilgrimage, the undead monk named Larry Winters IC who is on his way to enlightenment?

If the character is depicted as a pilgrim, it’s probably gucci. It’s not an obstrusive word anyway.

Leaves him with a kind of bad name to be honest but I wouldn’t personally report it

This reminds me - If you are looking for good RP in-game names, hit me up.

I think now is the time for Blizzard to update their RP server rules and to actually start enforcing them.

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When it comes to some of the issues that we face, regardless of what happens I think the most important thing to do right now is to keep calm and to speak with loud but reasonable voices.

I like to think that roleplayers are nothing if not tenacious - we do quite literally make our own fun. That tenacity is what allows us to keep coming back and keep doing what we enjoy even after somebody stands over your roleplay with a mammoth.

I feel like the influx of OOCers has a few people worried that the roleplay on the server is going to be snuffed out entirely, but do not fear. The community will always exist so long as we stay in touch with one another, and the hard times will pass.

Don’t give up, skeleton.

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About marketing RP that you mentioned, I tend to explain it that it is similar to D&D, since a lot of people are already familiar with Dungeons & Dragons either via personal experiences or breifly heard about it via pop culture (Stranger Things.) or other media. In that a lot of events and guilds use a rolling system based off of that in D&D, you choose a race and a class and further progress a story to your character, etc, except that it happens in World of Warcraft. It tends to give people a different perspective to what RP’ing in WoW actually is like, rather than the Goldshire-ERP-infested mess a lot of people think it is.

personal bias but no it isn’t. sticky stops it being closed and allows people to continuously add to it if need be, a consistently updated guide on some esoteric rp lore is very much in-place on this server’s forums


also in general, the main issue is one that i didn’t see anyone attack in this thread and never have. oocers are surprisingly healthy for this server in that they are most likely alts of rpers, and also might be looking to give the server a try.

the reason the undesirables of the server seem so much more obvious or roach like nowadays is because the games population is steadily declining and people are jumping off their dead servers onto full ones. rpers and raiders alike.

i do agree there is too much yelling ooc in rp hubs and that in general wants to be nipped in the bud and blizzard give contrasting opinions based on erp. they action the trps but unless someone reports another for seeing erp in a channel, it wont do anything. that said, loud and annoying works

replacing everything in a mad bid to be like “we’re a new server and we don’t like you” is incredibly elitist and jarring to actually drawing new blood to this server, call me crazy

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Not trying to attack it just feels out of place, to me, because… Where’s the fel magic guide? Druidic and Shamanic magic? Holy magic? And so on. It sticks out because as incredibly comprehensive as it is, it’s a lone guide with no counterparts across the same field.

E: I am in no way calling for it to be taken down, just explaining my own thought process when I look at the stickies and think “Huh, what’s that doing there?”

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because nobody has made one? nothing is stopping them, it’s not as if there is a limit to the amount of guides/stickied threads there can be and it doesn’t eliminate the fact that, if it isn’t stickied it closes because of how long it has been open. it avoids me bumping it every month to keep it open so i can reply to people

It’s only out-of-place, then, because the other forms of magic deserve guides too. Would love to see more guide threads pop up on the forums.

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Theoretically no but practically yes. You can’t have two dozen sticky threads cluttering up the top of the page, that’s just silly.

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thankfully i kept the exact amount ambiguous because i’m not suggesting that we have two dozen guides for every aspect of rp.

Having this thread made is a good step itself I should say, and I appreciate it.

Although I’m currently not in the state to put much thought in, I believe having a new chat channel made for RP servers, besides /s, /y and /e, to serve as a general OOC chat channel accessible to everyone or something (and perhaps even cross faction) it’ll be very good. Although I don’t have a clear plan over my mind how this can be, but it certainly can help for corrections, communication and other things which may be necessary at times.

One may say General chat of a zone works toa degree, but something more fleshed out and dedicated to this can be helpful, as an in game feature.

Just a simple idea which can help overall.

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Isn’t that just /lfrp?

My frontpage has 13 threads of space (at 80% zoom) before I need to scroll. One guide for each of the magic ‘schools’ and you’re already looking at over half of that, nevermind any other stickies, nevermind any other guides (such as the mineral/herb one that was knocking around at one point). It is entirely fair to say that no, there isn’t space to sticky all guides (and perhaps there should be a single Master Guide thread linking to others), and arcane magic having a ‘preferential’ sticky spot is out of place.

I’ve got no doubt that at times people have written guides for other magic schools that didn’t get stickied.

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I’ve been reading through the thread and for one, I am glad that my idea of rp’ing in zones currently held by OOC’ers is finding more traction. Goldshire may be a tough nut to crack, same with Boralus ( can’t speak for Dazar’Alor since i dont rp on horde) since its current content, but Trade District/Valley of Strength/Silvermoon Bazaar should be manageable to start with, since the majority of the city is already used by roleplayers.

Furthermore, as others have said in this thread, we need to change our image in the eyes of non-roleplayers. The Asmongold video from a while ago makes it abundantly clear what they think of us, that we’re furries, erp’ers and other weirdo’s. That Goldshire is all there is to roleplay servers. Maybe a guide or some youtube stream about what roleplay actually is would help.

On the whole public ERP topic, I think we can safely assume that they are not going to budge untill it garners them negative publicity on a large scale. Untill then they will continue to sweep Goldshire and such under the rug as if it’s not there, but if it’s out in the newspapers, they will -have- to act. No businessman wants their name publically tied to stuff that happens in Goldshire. Reaching out to newspapers and someone visiting Blizzcon to ask what they are doing about it would help.

So, tl;dr:

  • Try roleplay in zones to get them back.
  • Change non-roleplayer’s perception of roleplay, get rid of the “It’s all Goldshire”-image.
  • Keep reporting those that grief and troll roleplay, it may not help you out right this instant, but if enough of us do it and keep doing it, in the long run something might change. As others said, be loud!
  • Try and get rid of internal drama, it will only make us look silly and petty in the eyes of outsiders.
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